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To: JohnM who wrote (35745)8/2/2002 1:15:56 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
I also, however, think, for the obvious money reasons, CNN much more readily defers to complaints from the Sharon folk than from the Arafat folk.

The "obvious money reasons" in this case line up much more firmly behind the EU and the whole Arab world than they do either Sharon or Arafat.



To: JohnM who wrote (35745)8/2/2002 1:21:10 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
the Israeli govt (in this case, the Sharon govt) is much better at the PR stuff than the Palestinians. For many reasons

You really think that the Israeli government is better at PR than the Palestinians? I think you must be the only person in world who thinks so. I sure don't.



To: JohnM who wrote (35745)8/2/2002 3:16:03 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
CNN much more readily defers to complaints from the Sharon folk than from the Arafat folk.


John,you must have missed the stories a couple of months back about CNN's problems with their staff in Palestine. They were following the pack Journalism of the Europeans, and CNN had to fire or transfer them when it finally became obvious.



To: JohnM who wrote (35745)8/2/2002 4:19:09 PM
From: LLLefty  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>>>>the Israeli govt (in this case, the Sharon govt) is much better at the PR stuff than the Palestinians. For many reasons.<<<<<

Huh?

For many years now, be it a Rabin, Barak, Bibbi or Sharon
government, PR has taken a back seat to Israeli security concerns.

Do you think Israeli would have dumped that one-tonner in Gaza if they had PR in mind? They wanted that nasty piece of work dead and were ready take the world's "outrage."

Do you think Labor's Rabin was concerned with PR when, during the first intifada, he told the IDF to "break the bones" of kids tossing stones and "sh-t bags (rather than use weapons).

As for CNN, it lives on visuals. If they don't have them, it's not really news. Palestinian funerals are made-for-CNN, what with the chest beating, guns firing in the air, thousands marching and chanting "Death to...."

Just briefly, the Israelis long ago ceded a strong PR effort. Actually, they've never been good at it but have now pretty much decided--wrongly, in my view--that they are not going to get a fair shake in the world's media. So it's first things first, the security of the population, no matter.

if Tek or Nadine have read this far, Ze'ev Schiff (Israel's Tony Cordesmann) had a few good pieces a few weeks ago on:

--How those wild massacre figures from Jenin came about. A refrigeration truck played a part; Israeli soldiers slept in it to get away from the heat.

--Why the recent CFR study, underwritten, he says, by the State Department, was a case of "chutzpah or a joke." He bases some of his conclusions on Yossi Alpher's refusal to sign the final report.