To: TobagoJack who wrote (177 ) 8/4/2002 1:57:26 AM From: smolejv@gmx.net Respond to of 867 Where you got me going with all this? Since you did not ask, I will tell; The desk analogy is cludgy insofar that it seems to me the owner - the alpha desktop - is the only animate subject onstage, the only one having a will, discretionary power blah blah blah. The rest is just some dead stuff, being pushed around. The truth however is, that these desks are SO ALIVE, Men in Black is a Pharao's tomb in comparison. So the analogy makes a nice story but would cause alpha desktop (who thinks he's one anyhow) come to wrong / misleading / catastrophic conclusions. What else were Germans to Adolf but tin soldiers on his new 1000 years order desktop of ... etc re >>In the case of ‘democracies’ such as the US, the one-man-one-vote system of government is an experiment in civilization, but it is an experiment. << I agree to the experiment word (what else are our lives but...) I disagree however on "US is one-man-one-vote system". See Senate voting system (Bavaria got rid of its Senate, so US could do it as well) and presidential state electors nonsense (directly imported out of ante-bellum Virginia, I guess). BUT, it's darn good experiment (g). [edit] btw the biggest problem I see in run-of-the-mill democracies of the western provenience is the voters' abstinence. Same thing as our health care systems - noncompliance being one of the major reasons for illnesses ;\[end of edit] As Marx said:"The role of political economy is not to explain the world, but to change it". US have been doing a splendid job lately (sg). ...to be continued... Now to my stuff on European Union and the East extension RegZ dj PS: looking at Ag (like Argentum) this weekend...