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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (1256)	8/4/2002 11:12:47 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 3959

Chinu. You said...." Even here in some city council meetings in California with a predominant Muslim population we have prayer rooms in the City hall where Muslim attendees of City Council meetings leave the meeting to go to the prayer hall/room, pray for about 5 to 7 minutes and then come back. This room is provided for by the city. Diversity, multiculturalism???".... Diversity, multiculturalism? IMO Appeasement just like in many other countries. If we just give them this little bit maybe they won't bother us anymore. But they will keep bothering us until there are so many of them that they start demanding a place in government. Are these the peaceful good muslims that you refer to? These muslims have their job to do and that is to work their way into government positions. I wonder who these good muslims will obey when the fanatic muslims show up. Will they back up their country or their religion? I can still remember when government offices and buildings banned christmas or nativity scenes during Christmas season because it offended muslims yet these same muslims observe their religious practice in our presence and in our buildings sort of like giving non muslims the finger. I wonder if muslims get paid for their pray time when done during work hours like coffee breaks. Big problem in France and coming here soon. We can't refuse to have muslims in government and we won't be able to live with them in government. I wonder if our government people ever thought that there may be people of other religions or people who are non religious who find religious practice in public offensive or religious symbols when worn or used in public to be offensive. Freedom of religion should be applied equally for all or just get rid of that law.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (1256)	8/10/2002 10:35:05 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 3959

Iranian rulers face new challenge The Dawn Aug 6, 2002 By Parinoosh Arami TEHRAN: Loosely veiled and wearing heavy makeup, young women line the main streets in northern Tehran, looking out for prosperous customers in new cars. Such scenes, taking place with ever greater frequency , have become a big headache for Iran's Islamic rulers who have long tried to eradicate "social corruption" and realize their dream of a puritanical society. Based on official figures, about 300,000 women are engaged in the sex trade in Iran and the numbers is steadily rising. Newspapers routinely report of a crackdown on "corrupt networks" preying upon naive runaway girls from small towns. Until several years ago, Iran's ruling Shia Muslim clergy either denied adamantly that they faced a prostitution problem or blamed it on the "bad influences" of Western culture, transmitted by videos and satellite television. But with the practice spreading to even small towns closed to outside influences, many are waking up to the reality and looking for solutions other than sheer force. "CHASTITY HOUSES": The latest idea is the so-called "chastity houses", regarded by some religious leaders as a more acceptable version of brothels, to both shelter poor street women and satisfy the sexual needs of men who cannot afford to get married. The idea has been widely publicised in the Iranian media but, with prostitution long held as a "cardinal sin", few dare to openly endorse it and most officials have dissociated themselves from it. At least one senior cleric, Ayatollah Mohammad Mousavi Bojnurdi, has come out strongly in defence of the plan, provoking an uproar among feminist and conservative groups. "We face a real challenge with all these women on the streets. Our society is in an emergency situation, so the formation of the chastity houses can be an immediate solution to the problem," the ayatollah told a newspaper. "This plan is both realistic and conforms to the Shariah." Under the scheme, couples would register for a temporary, Islamicly correct marriage and receive a licence as well as free contraceptives and health advice. The licence would legitimise their relationship and make them immune from harassment by the modesty police, who prowl the streets looking to arrest young couples who are out together, but are not related. Many women are outraged by the idea. The Cultural Council for Women, an Islamist feminist group, said such houses would be a "deceitful and thinly disguised" name for prostitution iranandworld.com