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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (22081)	8/4/2002 6:33:37 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Good grief, I found myself agreeing with most of that. Almost all of it! I'd better check my premises - something's obviously wrong. Are you sure you are Ray or are you a cyberspace hijacker? There was the usual rabid vituperative ranting at one stage, but it wasn't fully convincing. There were even some interesting ideas there. Oh well, even bad eggs can be good in parts. Mqurice

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (22081)	8/5/2002 10:37:58 AM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Ray: >>I reviewed the Declaration on our national holiday, the Fourth of July. I was impressed that of the dozen or so conditions of unfair exploitation by royalty that were expressed at the time, we've reverted to an imperial government that is guilty of at least two-thirds of the grievances that were redressed by the Declaration. Maybe it is time we have another "revolution". Which would actually be a remarkably reactionary and conservative move, taking us back to the levels of individual freedom and states rights we'd achieved in 1780.<< Ray, I couldn't agree more, though I think armed revolution would be the wrong way to (not) do it. I am puzzled as to why the citizenry consistently votes for more taxation and more bureaucracy and is unconcerned by the ever-rising tide of government incursion on civil rights. Boiled frog syndrome, I guess.