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To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (283774)	8/5/2002 5:20:06 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

re:"Went to catholic schools for 15 years and found the opposite " Are you telling me that official Catholic teachings in your schools had you embracing non-catholics, eg Jews and Protestants? How about atheists and agnostics? If so, it was not the same church that I grew up in... As kids we were almost forbidden to enter a non-catholic church and lightening would certainly strike if you entered a synagogue... If one resisted the admonitions and insisted on marrying a non-catholic, the ceremony had to be held in a catholic church but the nuptials were held not at the altar but rather "at the railing". The couple had to agree to raise their children as catholics. I went to public schools where about 40% of the students were catholic, the rest were protestant along with very few Jews. We had absolutely no blacks or hispanics in our community. Similar to the Pledge controversy of today, we were, of course, required to recite the Lord's Prayer every morning. As evidenced by an abrupt volume change the catholics ended their recitation with the phrase "but deliver us from evil...amen". The protestants continued with the prayer for one more verse ie,"for thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, forever ..Amen" I only ever saw money going into the church through donations, bingo, block parties, and a Saturday night dance for teens. I cannot recall a single instance of the church putting anything into the community. They ran their own school system and maintained (very well I might add) all church property. No civic activities were sponsored and there were no youth activities such as little league sports. I saw no aid to the poor and I certainly lived in a neighbor hood that qualified. Priests did visit the very sick and the dying. And there was one practice I always thought was decidedly nonhumanist.....catholics who committed suicide were not allowed to be buried in consecrated ground but instead were buried in a separate section of the cemetery. re:" in college humanism seemed to find a place in theology" In a catholic college? Look at this link and let me know the common ground with it and the church. americanhumanist.org