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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rock_nj who wrote (283956)	8/5/2002 2:51:26 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Respond to of 769670

You're absolutely right.

To: Rock_nj who wrote (283956)	8/5/2002 3:03:07 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Follow the money is right. Did you know that that after the 2000 election, there were four senators worth $200 million or more-and all four were Democrats: Senator John Kerry, Herb Kohl, Jon Corzine and Jay Rockefeller? Eight of the top ten richest senators are Democrats In early 2002, David Geffen, Barbra Streisand, Steven Spielbnerg, and about one hundred other Malibu Marie Antoinettes erected chain-link fences to keep hoi polloi off the public beaches adjacent to their mult-million dollar beachfront estates. The California Coastal Commission was forced to intervene to demand that the Hollywood left stop blocking access to the beach. Steve Hoye, former head of the Malibu Democratic Club, expressed shock at the arrogance of what he called "some of the best, most liberal people in Malibu." Some people are interested in America's best interest. Some are only interested in theirs. M

To: Rock_nj who wrote (283956)	8/5/2002 3:47:33 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

that allende dude in chile was debauching the currency... spare me the 'pinochet evil' mantra... the u.s. could use a hero like pinochet now... as for chile... they have the strongest economy in all of the americas... thanks in large part to pinochet's work...

To: Rock_nj who wrote (283956)	8/5/2002 3:50:32 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

WAR IS A SWELL RACKET - Smedley Butler, USMC Rock On! You've just hit the nail on the head. Thus it has always been. Lt. Gen. Smedley Butler (USMC-Ret.) said exactly that about the scurrilous use of the military back in the mid 1930's. You might recall that Butler was the leader that the House of Morgan called upon to lead a coup d'etat against Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A true patriot, Butler declined and reported this treason to the proper authorities. Who decided that the scandal of hanging Jack Morgan would be more than the economy could bear, and let the scoundrel off, scot free. fas.org Smedley Butler on Interventionism -- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC. War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses. I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. [[RD: And all too many RWEs on this thread!]] I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

To: Rock_nj who wrote (283956)	8/6/2002 2:37:20 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

re:"crushing of budding Iranian democracy in the early 1950s and the support of the brutal regime of the Shah of Iran" Did you know, that a year before Iran's democratic Prime Minister was removed in a Coup, he was granted dictatorial power from Parliament, then a week before the coup (August 3,1953), tried to dissolve the Parliament. Second Pinochet was an absolute disaster to Chile. I've read, that by the time the coup started, even the Copper workers (from the mines he had nationalized) were striking against him. Anyway, that was during the Cold War. Since the end of the Cold War, democracy has spread through out Latin America - the notable exception being Cuba. You are spouting old propaganda the Soviet Union tried to spread. I don't think even the Russians believe this crap anymore.