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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (22176)	8/6/2002 1:00:59 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

This happens every day with Nigerians, Asians and Latin Americans. The treatment is now extended to other people previously not suspected. The people providing "security" at US airports have to make daily logs of the cases they encounter. Since the overall majority of passengers just want to get out any airport in the world, being it arriving or departing, there, apparently, have not been many issues to be reported. The pot must be kept stirred otherwise the reason for "security" will vanish, if ever existed. But there is always some convenient (just look at that shoot out at L.A. for the masses to nod) yes we need "security". The Israeli James Bond state is the model for this US. A constant state of war as a way of life. No good place to live, I can tell you. Pretty, soon, Ray goes to a hiking trip. Someone install Spector type software in his PC, while he's away, and have all keystrokes, mails and postings logged in. Then at 02:00 AM they will come for you.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (22176)	8/6/2002 3:06:21 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Raymond, the vaunted American 'freedom of speech' is over. It is illegal to use any word in the hearing of wacko brainless security people which they don't like. Surely the security people could take the comment as having meaning and an expression of frustration. It is illegal to express frustration and a point of view that the authorities are not contributing to greater human happiness. No wonder people like Mr Invictus McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski go nuts and demonstrate yet again that individuals have a thing called free will and they will not be slaves. They are not automatons, despite the current determination to blame Uncle Green$pan for the bubble as though the buyers were mindless Zombies. Sure, McVeigh and Kaczynski have personalities of dubious stability and sense, but if such people are handled sensibly, they are unlikely to go seriously off the rails into mayhem. Waco was far worse than Tienanmen Square because the Wackoes were surrounded and out of the way. Tienanmen's mob was an unmanageable shambles with direct political challenge to the state's existence. There was no reason for many people including many children to die at Waco. The mass murders at schools, workplaces and elsewhere seem to be a similar manifestation of the same thing. What a mess. I say Osama is well ahead on the scoreboard. He's managed to stop me going there by inducing the airline industry and government hangers on, already insufferable, to make life near airports intolerable. Why on earth do they need to handcuff the guy? Zero threat or reason to even suspect the hint of a threat. What if he stumbles while arrested and injures his face on the ground? Can he sue the person who stupidly put handcuffs on him for reckless disregard for safety? Incidentally, they are more likely to catch terrorists by letting people speak freely - wacko terrorists would be more conspicuous if everyone was behaving normally and free to speak their minds. Rows of cowed, immobile, expressionless people all look the same. There's no way to pick out the oddballs. Though they missed the obvious shoebomber - incredible!! Mq

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (22176)	8/6/2002 1:12:34 PM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Raymond: While I do not agree with your black and white view of the ethics of business, I am in total agreement with you on this one. The way in which our civil rights have been trashed by TSA thugs is highly alarming. I have read of an 8 year old boy being separated from his parents for a full-body search because "the computer picked his name": of a 75 year old WWII Medal of Honor winner who very narrowly escaped having his Medal of Honor confiscated by America West screeners, never to be seen again, because the star-shaped medal "could be used as a weapon." Of a passenger escorted from an America West plane in handcuffs because she jokingly asked if the pilots had had a sobriety check - a week after two America West pilots were arrested for attempting to fly a plane full of passengers while legally drunk. And, most laughable of all, how aircrew (pilots) are now targeted for extra attention, including a full pat-down, just in case they are hiding a box cutter adjacent to their units so that once in the cockpit they can remove the hidden weapon and hijack themselves. Searching the pilots? Think about how Orwellian that is? "Well, Mr. Pilot, no weapons on you. I guess it's safe now for you to sit at the controls of the aircraft behind a locked door, where you can smash the plane, everyone on it and a thousand people on the ground to smithereens with the push of a finger." I have personally resolved to fly now only when absolutely necessary (i.e for vacations), but this is not really the answer. The US government has a record of going overboard during crises (going door-to-door to confiscate privately-owned gold in the '30s, incarcerating all Japanese Americans during WWII) and I am hoping that this too shall pass. I'm not optimistic. Thank God for the founding fathers who gave us three branches of government so that the citizenry could eventually overturn this kind of collective madness.