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To: Bill who wrote (18951)	8/6/2002 5:55:51 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Gee, here I thought that victims were the purview of the demolibs. Now the moderates and conservatives are claiming them? <g> Seriously, if my position is liberal, what do you call those who oppose the death penalty, who are concerned about the pain and suffering of those on death row, who could never serve on a jury that required voting on the death penalty, who worry about innocents being executed, who think that the death penalty is cruel, who hold candlelight vigils at executions? Now, I would think those views are liberal and that my position, which does not oppose the death penalty but merely finds it impractical, is on the conservative side of moderate, although I wouldn't give you an argument if you called it just plain moderate. Hell, even our conservative Supremes found that executing the retarded was cruel and unusual. If I'm to the right of them, I don't see how my position can be liberal. If you find my position liberal, perhaps you have a very distorted view of where the middle is. Or perhaps a simplistic appreciation of the issue. Or perhaps you merely prejudged my position, reading your expectations into it.

To: Bill who wrote (18951)	8/7/2002 7:11:31 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

"That's liberal. Moderates and conservatives think first of victims. Past, present and future" All intelligent people consider the poor and the sick and the afflicted, and those wronged by the State...or the crooked reps of the State. Liberals care just as much for those who are wrongfully convicted and killed as do Conservatives.