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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (36353)8/7/2002 3:29:10 PM
From: Win Smith  Respond to of 281500
 
godwinslaw.com

Not exactly an infrequent occurrence around here, though. Sort of par for the warblogger course, actually.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (36353)8/7/2002 3:58:31 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine as I pointed out in another post, there are places where you can report your information to alert the proper sources of this. You have "let the teenagers speak for themselves" but you put that taint onto all Muslims, for you continue in the following post excerpt to expand on that original premise: "And to say "this is just a few teenagers" is to deny the obvious -- the teenagers are not making the snuff videos, they are just admiring them. Who are the guys who are really decapitating infidels on video, hmmm? This is not a problem in your eyes, that an entire subculture thinks this stuff is great and is passing it to Muslim American teens to admire? Can you say "shooting the messenger?"

I believe the majority of Muslims and Islamic folks in this country are as law-abiding as anyone and love this country as much as anyone. I suspect, too, that they are saddened their country, and if they were born here it is "their" country, turns against them and singles them out for hate and ridicule, exclusion and vilification. And yes, posting such as this does promote hate against them: I just came across something very disturbing, a site where Muslim youth discuss their favorite genre, snuff videos of infidels. . You point out rightly that people in Germany should have put a stop to Hitler's hatemongering. He and his henchmen wrote and distributed information about the "evil" Jewish presence and what terrible people they were so that Germans started treated them as outcasts, kind of like the Muslims here are being treated. You betcha, there may be some terrorists among them, but to use a lidybill term, the FBI is on those folks like white on rice.

I'm sure if you infiltrated some street gang's headquarters you'd find equally despicable muck and films calling for killing cops or white people or the gang down the street.

In fact we're probably in more danger of collapsing from within than from any far away threat from Saddam. He knows that he cannot do one single thing against us. He's on his best behavior because he's scared. And he should be, because we can remove his country from this planet. I understand you have concerns, but I believe the greater good for the United States is forebearance. We still have a presence in Afghanistan. Its government is shaky and would topple if troops had to leave there to fight in Iraq.

Someone once told me peace is but an interlude between wars, which are the natural state of events. And perhaps it is that this war is inevitable and you will have it. I think it's a profound mistake and a guaranteed disaster for this country.