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To: ajtj99 who wrote (4897)	8/8/2002 8:13:35 AM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 30712

well damn, i'm a veteran, too, i've lived in more places, speak more languages than that other guy, and there is no doubt in my mind this iraq nonsense is a load of hooey. we supported saddam when he was gassing his own people and when he was gassing his neighbors, to say we now, suddenly, care he has these weapons is beyond hypocrisy. we picked a fight with him in '91, not the other way around. the BS currently coming out of the whitehouse is no different than the garbage clinton put out - and airmailed into the Sudan via cruise missile - when he got into Monica-trouble. this administration is playing us for chumps hoping we get distracted and don't notice what they are doing to our economy and to our cherished liberties. let's not forget the ex-nixonites serving "under" Shrub. shame on them. but more, shame on us for swallowing their crap and letting them get away with it. <rant off>

To: ajtj99 who wrote (4897)	8/8/2002 10:34:10 AM
From: Mike M	Respond to of 30712

I'm not fighting any wars. That war was ended for far more reasons than the one you allude to. There were also a few assumptions that didn't play out. If I had your attitude, I'd still be pissed at the people who serve me food at the local Chinese restaurant for being from Vietnam. More of your baiting...? I lost friends in that war but I don't hold people responsible for government decisions unless they were the decision makers. That one, in fact, I consider JFK and Johnson to be bag holders. If time permits, I'll list the dozen or so people the US has been considering replacements. It's pretty widely available and was printed in several news magazines last fall. News magazines can't even get the sports issues right and you're going to quote me highly classified information from a magazine. Come on aj, you have to know better than that. I didn't forget Joe Stalin...I omitted him. You forget that the military mind (Patton and Mc Arthur in particular) wanted to continue the war to remove Joe while we were mobilized and could... Mao was a mass murderer, but Nixon went and met with him and opened up relations with China. See, it's not so clear is it. No one said it was clear. Mao was and has always been our enemy. However, the Chinese people were incredible allies during World War II. Their courage in support of our airmen after the Doolittle raid was marvelous. That we fought them seven years later in Korea was tragic. You're the one that doesn't get it aj. It isn't a nation of people that is our enemy. It is mad men who will kill and maim and destroy at will to achieve their own megalomanic desires. Sadam is supporting terrorism now. He is a threat to the world now and will become a greater threat if left unchecked. We can bury our heads in the sand and ignore him. Obviously many would like to do just that. I don't think we should. I agree that we disagree and won't change each others minds. I also don't consider this a proper forum (despite the "Death Blow's"<g> title) nor do I want to continue the discussion. It just isn't in the shade of black and white that you originally stated it either.