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To: E. Charters who wrote (88685)8/11/2002 8:20:58 AM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 116766
 
zero gravity (or) location location location (or) lets see if
we can explain this without the mathematics since some
use a plugg'in into the formula to get the answer,
but when one of the input conditions changes
and requires changes to the formula, some folks
have not the ability to do change,
as in did not know what them plugg'in really meant.
so
Lets use planet Earth as being 100% water.
I seem to remember one character of water is that
it is near impossible to compress. Not sure about this,
but lets assume eventhought it may not be important.
ok,
Now we need an external object to use as both a test device
and to record data and send it back to me and Eric.
.
That lobot-head duhZaRoll is perfect as it is a sphere,
water tight and able to communicate with us two guys.
.
ok,
This planet Earth of all water, no nothing anything else.
.
Diameter is i have no idea.
Boston to San Fran is 2,000 miles i think.
I'll guess from Earth's surface to center is 5,000 miles.
ok,
duhZaRoll is on water's surface like a dull beach-ball.
Now lets use the force of imagination and "pull" it down.
Lets assume the density/consistency/etc of duhZaRoll
is equal to a solid rubber ball. (or suggestions welcome)
ok,
Unlike pulling a balloon down into waters depth and see it
become little'r and get very smaller very quick since the air
would compress into a pin drop of liquid before a mile or two,
this duhZaRoll is very dense (as if i needed to say that :o)
and we are not compressing any air pockets, but really at
the molecular level and it can take a lick'en and still...
sorry, babbling
ok,
duhZaRoll original diameter is 10 inches.
Earths diameter is 10,000 miles but we is focused on the
trip from surface to the center 5,000 miles down under water.
bBut,
Lets take a small tangent first and view this using an Earth
that has all its mass on the surface, like a steel sphere that
is hollow, so lets make planet Earth out of lead only and at
the surface with a depth of i'll guess 100 miles is solid lead
and the 5,000 miles - 100 miles = 4,900 miles is empty like
the vacuum of outer space that exist at Earth's surface.
(oops) no Moon folks, sorry.
.
Opps2 in that we can not use same plug in the formulas
as those for a uniform solid sphere of real planet Earth
since the location location location is quite different now
and going down 50 miles into the lead is similiar to the prior
center of the Earth. But the only point i wish to make here
is that if duhZaRoll was pulled down into the lead, and lets
really stretch our imagination and assume the duhZaRoll's
temperature was a self generating temp over leads melting
and was able to be pulls down, that once it "popped" "down"
under the 100 mile point that its gravity would be reversed
as comparied to the surface and now have a tendency to be
"stuck" under the lead surface. ok, but we will pull pull it down
and once we reach Earth's center then yes, zero pull.
ok, but this when the leaded Earth is empty space zero stuff
inside it after the 100 mile surface depth. So yes duhZaRoll
seems to be just hanging in mid air of size 10 inches, and if one
was to appear and give it a kick then off it would "fly" :o)
.
ok, but back to original Earth of all water and the duhZaRoll
at the center would have size of ???
At surface it was 10 inches as mentioned.
At 1 mile depth in water it is less than 10 inches.
At 100 miles depth huge pressure on all sphere "sides"
really makes a dent in it and one could imagine this as placing
a bucket of water on your head and then keep on stacking
more buckets of water on top of the buckets until it was
100 miles high. HUGE weight.
ok,
bBUt
Message from E. Charters
Everyone thinks the earth's core is...
But in fact at the earth's core...
... the centre may all be gas,
or light material.
It may even be hollow.
If you don't believe this,
just work out the calculus... [stop.]
.
bBut my water example of duhZaRoll shows that as one travels
down deeper and deeper that its size will be compressed.
Now at the very center there is equal pull of gravity every
sandwhich way so that one's weight using a bathroom scale
is zero. But pressure and gravity are apples and oranges
yes E.C. ?

d:oug



To: E. Charters who wrote (88685)8/11/2002 9:38:14 AM
From: Zardoz  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116766
 
Everyone thinks the earth's core is super heavy metals from the pressure of the superabundant overburden. But in fact at the earth;s core there is zero gravity.

That's not the reason why people believe the earths' core has Heavy metals. It's because the differentiation due to density differences causes the metals to sink to the core & silicates rise while the outer surface of the earth was cooling. Nothing to due with Gravity, everything to due with Pressure.



To: E. Charters who wrote (88685)8/11/2002 9:20:50 PM
From: John Soileau  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116766
 
<<But in fact at the earth's core there is zero gravity. >>
Hey EC,
Actually, there is gravity there; it's not zero. The gravitational pull of the Sun for example, is there. It's just very low gravity at the center of the Earth, since almost all of Earth's gravity is out of the picture.

What I'm saying is, do not underestimate the gravity of the situation!
John