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To: fingolfen who wrote (169305)	8/12/2002 2:25:54 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: Intel has the highest performing processor in the world in the Itanium 2 (which is manufactured on a completely obsolete 0.18 micron process). The 0.13 micron version of this chip will run circles around anything on release. I think the jury is still very much out on that one, but all we can do is speculate, at this point. AMD's 0.13 micron process is a dud with no headroom, and the need SOI merely to remain competitive, not gain an edge. I believe you are wrong on that one. Our most recent team order went to Athlons after a comparison done a few months ago between a 1.47ghz 1700+ and a P4 1800. The Athlon was consistently 20% faster, so that team just ordered Athlon 2200+ boxes. They estimated that it would take 2.7ghz P4's to equal the performance of the Athlon 2200+. They do a lot of modeling, running primarily in Java. Could they have gotten a little better performance if they'd spent a lot of time optimizing their code for P4? I'm sure they could have. But they want to spend their time writing new code, not re-writing stable, de-bugged code for the purpose of making Intel's expensive, fussy, processors look good. With the Athlon, their old code runs fine, and they can spend their time working on improving the capabilities of their system. the K8 is simply a minor revision of that core, with a couple of added pipeline stages, and an integrated memory controller that's going to be a validation nightmare. K8 is quite a bit more than that, and why do you think a direct connection to memory would be more difficult to validate than a segmented one that has to go through a chipset? You almost certainly have that one backwards. X86 will continue into the future for Intel... Yep, and Z80 will continue into the future for Zilog. :-) What progress!?!?! I've seen a couple of programs, but no mainstream OS Errr.... Have you heard of something called "Microsoft Windows?" How about "Linux?" AMD is trying to go with a "one size fits all" strategy. The problem is, "one size" usually "fits none." That was the theory that SUN, Alpha, etc used to ignore the progress being made by standard computer hardware as it "moved up the chain" to servers and workstations. One size fits all has been fitting very well, and seems to fit a little better each quarter. . Intel, however, will be turning on hyperthreading at or around 3GHz which will give the P4 a lot of added punch even using mainstream software. Hyperthreading slows down standard desktop software by about 5%. Some server software shows a net gain.