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To: TGPTNDR who wrote (149629)8/13/2002 11:13:17 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1580266
 
D. Ray doesn't think he was so bad

I think I made it abundantly clear I have no respect for Nixon whatsoever, solely because of his lying. That said, he was not a pathological liar like Clinton. Clinton lied incessantly -- sometimes to cover up (in the Lewinsky deal) and at other times for political gain (as in "it's the economy, stupid"). Also, Nixon DID have accomplishments -- Clinton had none.

Either way, I believe Nixon disgraced the office of the presidency. If I had to choose between Nixon & Clinton, I prefer Nixon hands down because (1) he did have signficant accomplishments, like getting us out of the the Kennedy-LBJ Vietnam War, and (2) while he was dishonest, he wasn't as dishonest as Clinton was.

As to Nixon vs. Carter, it isn't simple. Carter was a horrible, horrible president -- certainly one of the worst of modern times -- but he was totally honest and a man of integrity. On the other hand, Nixon was a decent president but lacked integrity. This would be a difficult call to make. The damage done by Carter in incalculable. The damage done by Nixon was contained. I guess that's how I'd have to look at it.

And I doubt David would disagree a whole lot with that.

No, I pretty much agree -- Carter was a respectable guy, just incompetent as a president.

But there were a whole lot of folks, not much older than I at the time, who thought Nixon, despite lying to the public, press, and congress was an OK president. Certainly better than all them dirty dope smokin' hippys that'd let all of Asia fall to the communists.

Love it or leave it.' And one It was the United States, the other was Nixon's policies


I think criticism of Nixon's Vietnam policy is unfair. Kennedy and LBJ were totally responsible for Vietnam and Nixon tried his best to figure a way out of it. Basically, he inherited a horrible situation from the Democrats.

One thing is clear. Every Democrat to be elected to the presidency in my lifetime has been a total disaster. First Kennedy followed by LBJ. I believe LBJ should be remembered as the worst president of the century, because he was so terribly weak when it came to the war and his incompetence cost 58,000 Americans their lives -- single handedly. Carter, well, Iran pretty much tells the story. And you all know what I think about Mr. Sleeze.

For this reason, I've concluded that for the most part, the worst Republicans make better presidents than do the best Democrats. A time could come when a really compelling Democrat would appear, but I haven't seen it. They just don't seem to be analytical enough for the job.