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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (145446)8/14/2002 3:34:27 AM
From: GST  Respond to of 164684
 
Liz -- understanding the basics of expensing options is extremely simple -- all options (all options) are priced based on a premium. A buyer pays the premium and then hopes for the best. A seller collects the premium -- pretty simple really. If, as in your case, you end up with worthless compensation options you would have been better off to be paid in cash -- but nobody makes any adjustments after you have taken the options in lieu of cash compensation -- nobody says, "gosh, that is too bad, here is the cash instead". Same thing if I buy a contract on the open market. If I buy a contract that expires out of the money I don't get the premium refunded (wouldn't that be great!) Sorry if you can't follow this. Expensing options simply requires a formula to calculate the premium and a decision as to the timing of the expense. I would explain the timing issue but it seems you are completely disoriented on this whole matter -- simple as it is.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (145446)8/14/2002 12:22:57 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 164684
 
Actually, Liz, where his analogy falls apart is where he assumes they would sell the option in the market and give you all the proceeds, no strings attached. Since the options would be subject to vesting, the cash equivalent would be to promise you a cash bonus plan to be paid out over the next 3 or 4 years, but only if you stick around and earn it.

It amazes me that he can't see this simple principle.

Bob