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To: LLCF who wrote (187938)8/14/2002 11:37:56 PM
From: Activatecard  Respond to of 436258
 
Gold Dealers Bomb US Gold Market

Price drops from $318.50 in Asia to $311 in the USA
By
James Sinclair

Gold investor/traders were shocked this morning by the drop in gold prices
under relentless gold lease conversion dealer selling in the US. I have said, time
after time, that this is a Battle of the Titans devoid of any public between the
gold dealer's derivative cartel versus Asian bullish interest. Once again you see
this war being fought as if it was a last ditch attempt at survival. Well, it is!

This is not a war to prevent a melt down in the $300,000,000,000 gold derivative
pyramid but a war to prevent a crack in dike of $72,000,000,000,000 total
notional value of all derivatives granted on all trading items. It is a market
axiom that if one form of an item fails, pressure builds gradiently on all other
forms of the same item i.e. derivatives. That means if the gold derivative fails
then you can be sure you will have significant pressure on equity derivatives,
thence interest sensitive derivatives, thence last risk bond derivatives and so on.
Because of this fact, you can expect that this war will be raged every day for the
foreseeable future with the forces of the short gold derivatives facing off the
forces of the Asian longs that have been buying all the sold gold for the last five
years. The hope of the gold dealer derivative short is that if they can fight the
good fight each day than in time everything in the world of markets will come
right for them. Will it? My answer is absolutely, NO! This Bear market in
equities is not short term. It may well be sold out in certain sectors, but
probabilities do not support a significant economic recovery starting before
mid 2004. There is no chance, IMO (in my opinion), that the gold cartel can
keep up their efforts to sell as much gold as they have been selling every day for
the next two years. What is being forgotten is the Asian Bull Interest is the
answer to the question, "Who bought all the gold sold by all the gold producer
hedgers, the gold cartel and every gold bear for the past 5 years." Gold
fundamentals, as I have outlined to you are, IMO, improving daily. Look at the
commodity market to see the birth of the long-term bull market in the making.
In my opinion, bonds will top out in November. The dollar is having another
heart attack. JPM just broke down from it up wedge which I believe indicates a
test of the recent low. I know this comes at a hard time for public gold bulls, as
Bob Prechter is advertising his deflationist - gold bear thesis, which I don't
support as correct. If it were correct, why has Japan been the largest consumer
of physical gold over the past two years whilst in an undeniable and continuing
deflation period? I believe we are in a gold bull market that is both long term
and headed for substantially higher prices, regardless of the life or death play
being made now by the gold dealers cartel. The gold Cartel is fighting a brave
fight but is going down.



To: LLCF who wrote (187938)8/15/2002 8:48:16 AM
From: yard_man  Respond to of 436258
 
I disagree and think they will decouple at some pt -- maybe already have.



To: LLCF who wrote (187938)8/15/2002 8:50:22 AM
From: Lucretius  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
i agree



To: LLCF who wrote (187938)8/15/2002 10:05:26 AM
From: oldirtybastard  Respond to of 436258
 
agreed too, miners are a decent hedge for shorts imo

the notional value of all this paper is all in the same boat now imo, and if not then deflationary depression and being one of the few prepared you win that way too, in a sense, except life will suck outside of tropical islands -g-



To: LLCF who wrote (187938)8/15/2002 10:31:39 AM
From: Real Man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
Well... You have to measure correlations - in the past couple of months hui has been more correlated with equities. Otherwise pretty much anticorrelated.
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