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To: Ali Chen who wrote (87044)	8/15/2002 3:30:06 PM
From: chomolungma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Geez Ali, I'm really sorry, but I didn't even remember that exchange. Apparently, however, you did and I'm terribly sorry that I hurt your feelings so. It must have been a traumatic experience for you to have your opinion challenged. You better stay off of threads where opinions aren't regulated. Better you stay in your little inbred club here where all your little friends live and everyone shares your delusions.

To: Ali Chen who wrote (87044)	8/15/2002 4:05:29 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Ali Re..You should be ashamed and embarrassed, but my guess is you're not." And my guess is that you must be looking in a mirror... It is kind of strange how all of the Bees suddenly decided to vamoose. Maybe this article had a lot to do with it. Itanic and Hammer contrasted Open SSL benchmarks By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 15 August 2002, 17:07 OUR READER who ran Open SSL benchmarks has sparked quite a lot of interest with his story. So much so that someone has kindly sent us similar results for the Intel Itanium, which can be compared and contrasted with the AMD platform. Here's the benchmarks the reader claims to have obtained at Linuxworld and which we published in a separate story. theinquirer.net See Man walks up to Clawhammer, benchmarks it signs/sec verifies/sec rsa 512bits 965.9 12211.9 rsa1024 bits 205.0 3980.0 rsa 2048 bits 33.0 1093.3 rsa 4096 bits 4.7 288.5 And here are the results for an Itanium processor, below: itanium benchmark for openssl speed [root@titan160 proc]# cat cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor : GenuineIntel arch : IA-64 family : Itanium model : 0 revision : 6 archrev : 0 features : standard cpu number : 0 cpu regs : 4 cpu MHz : 800.156976 itc MHz : 800.156976 BogoMIPS : 796.91 processor : 1 vendor : GenuineIntel arch : IA-64 family : Itanium model : 0 revision : 6 archrev : 0 features : standard cpu number : 0 cpu regs : 4 cpu MHz : 800.156976 itc MHz : 800.156976 BogoMIPS : 796.91 # openssl version OpenSSL 0.9.6b [engine] 9 Jul 2001 # uname -a Linux 2.4.9-34smp #1 SMP Sat Jun 1 05:55:47 EDT 2002 ia64 unknown # cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) #openssl speed sign verify sign/s verify/s rsa 512 0.0028s 0.0002s 356.1 4014.8 rsa 1024 0.0150s 0.0008s 66.7 1197.5 rsa 2048 0.0996s 0.0031s 10.0 320.3 rsa 4096 0.7312s 0.0121s 1.4 82.4 We'll leave our readers to draw their conclusions. µ * A READER SAYS that out of morbid curiosity, he decided to run a whole heap of rsa-512 bit verify/s number with different machines. That includes the openssl speed test on various RS/6000s, a four way Ppro box, a G2 S/390 running Linux and Pentium 4s and Athlon XPs. Here are his results and more results. ** ANOTHER READER reckons that it is worth running the IA-64 tests more than one time because IA-64 machines have big caches and would perform better. Home Discuss on our Forum Flame Editor All of the Bees have been pounding the table lately about Itanium, and its supposedly superior benches, yet here we have a Hammer running at the same speed as Itanic, yet Hammer benches 3 to 4 times as fast. How will Itanic possibly compete on Linux when Hammer hits 2 ghz. It may be that Itanic only runs poorly on Linux and Windows, but those 2 are big ones. Do you or anyone know how bad Linux runs on Itanic, seeing as Linux just could be the next big thing in enterprize software. Is it likely we will see big improvements in benches once Windows or Linux gets optimized for Itanic.