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To: maceng2 who wrote (38093)	8/16/2002 6:31:52 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Is Vietnam in as bad a state as North Korea? IMO, no. Different culture produced a group leadership, instead of a hereditary Dictatorship. Since they won and took over the south, they have no pressure to fight anyone else, as the North Koreans do. They do not seem to have lost the "communist" outlook. However, the overseas Vietnamese are pouring a lot of money into the country. Kind of analogous to our situation with Castro, where the Miami Cubans are support the Cuban economy with a lot of money sent home. At least the Vietnamese are not starving, as the North Koreans are.

To: maceng2 who wrote (38093)	8/16/2002 6:47:29 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

It was apparent, however, that the MiG-15 was superior to any aircraft then in the US inventory.(from the URL) The Mig was probably a better fighter than the F-86. It was better armed, with cannon, and we were still arming our planes with 50 cal machine guns. They made nice little round holes, but were lousy for shooting down Migs. They had a better engine in the RR copy, and therefore better performance. The Migs ran our B-29's right out of the sky until we got enough F-86's over there. What we had going was better trained pilots and very superior gunsight. We ended up cleaning their clocks. By the time we got involved in Vietnam, 15 years later, we had got rid of the 50 Cal machine guns and jumped to air to air rockets. Good at long range, but no good close in. We had also quit training our pilots in dogfights. We started getting our clock cleaned. Fortunately, by that time, we had a fantastic gun available in a "pod" configuration. It was a electrically operated "gatling" 20MM cannon. They brought those suckers in, mounted them on our planes, gave the Pilots some "Air to Air" training, and started cleaning Vietnamese clocks.