To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (287487 ) 8/16/2002 2:00:07 PM From: CYBERKEN Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 In the simplest terms: 1) Neither the Russians nor the Chinese cared a wit about Hanoi. The Russians wanted to take advantage of the trap the US got themselves into. Had Hanoi and Haipong been nuked, the Russians were ready to turn to other matters, and forget the whole thing, satisfied with the fact that they had cost us lives and dough. In fact, they were surprised we never did it. The Chicoms would just have soon we had done it. Note they went to war with Hanoi a few years after the US pulled out. Relations with Vietnam are still poor. 2) Saigon: No, there was no nuclear power on Earth in the 60's or 70's that had the slightest interest or inclination to nuke Saigon. The American left would have loved to do it, but they didn't have the bomb. 3) We, THE AMERICANS, would have been seen by the rest of the world as someone not to f--k with (even if we later made Jimmy Carter president), and that would have prevented much suffering and oppression in the final years of the Cold War. The Europeans would have huffed and puffed on the official level (like they do today), all the time realizing that they had no place to go at all, with 80,000 Warsaw Pact tanks lined up across their continent looking for some moronic West European government to give them a reason-any reason. But of course, that's all history now, and Ronald Reagan finished off the Soviet Union, which will never re-emerge. Today we face a huge, backward, inferior culture of mindless Islamics screaming for the destruction of the Great Satan. (Yes, they sound a lot like Carville and Begala.) The key to stopping them from blowing up our buildings and murdering our people is to kill so many of them, so quickly, and with such assurance that the killing will continue regardless of any action by them, that they have a collective and miraculous change of heart and mind, and start killing their own radicals themselves. We have the appropriate weapon, the solid moral justification, and (since 911) the critical need to accomplish this. Furthermore, there's no one else on Earth who can do it but us. So load up the heaviest nukes in the arsenal, and LET'S ROLL!...