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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (287487)8/16/2002 1:38:10 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
You have absolutely no knowledge of history whatsoever. At least your ilk tries to revise it to their own liking (and, of course, you eat it right up, because you are ignorant), but you simply have no knowledge of it at all.

Don't try to argue 20th century with me. You are a worthless cockroach. Go get a clue...



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (287487)8/16/2002 2:00:07 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
In the simplest terms:

1) Neither the Russians nor the Chinese cared a wit about Hanoi. The Russians wanted to take advantage of the trap the US got themselves into. Had Hanoi and Haipong been nuked, the Russians were ready to turn to other matters, and forget the whole thing, satisfied with the fact that they had cost us lives and dough. In fact, they were surprised we never did it. The Chicoms would just have soon we had done it. Note they went to war with Hanoi a few years after the US pulled out. Relations with Vietnam are still poor.

2) Saigon: No, there was no nuclear power on Earth in the 60's or 70's that had the slightest interest or inclination to nuke Saigon. The American left would have loved to do it, but they didn't have the bomb.

3) We, THE AMERICANS, would have been seen by the rest of the world as someone not to f--k with (even if we later made Jimmy Carter president), and that would have prevented much suffering and oppression in the final years of the Cold War. The Europeans would have huffed and puffed on the official level (like they do today), all the time realizing that they had no place to go at all, with 80,000 Warsaw Pact tanks lined up across their continent looking for some moronic West European government to give them a reason-any reason.

But of course, that's all history now, and Ronald Reagan finished off the Soviet Union, which will never re-emerge. Today we face a huge, backward, inferior culture of mindless Islamics screaming for the destruction of the Great Satan. (Yes, they sound a lot like Carville and Begala.) The key to stopping them from blowing up our buildings and murdering our people is to kill so many of them, so quickly, and with such assurance that the killing will continue regardless of any action by them, that they have a collective and miraculous change of heart and mind, and start killing their own radicals themselves. We have the appropriate weapon, the solid moral justification, and (since 911) the critical need to accomplish this. Furthermore, there's no one else on Earth who can do it but us. So load up the heaviest nukes in the arsenal, and LET'S ROLL!...



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (287487)8/16/2002 2:15:39 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
Absolutely totally correct.

There are lots of idiots playing at being armchair General Rippers, willing to sacrifice thousands or millions of American lives for their military fantasies.

In the old days they would be marched to the front to be exposed as cowards under fire. In peacetime they need to be kept forcibly as far from any military governance as possible, and their views made as public.

Such folks need to experience a glorious hatred for other humans (always in general categories: "jews", "liberals", "muslims") and are more than willing to see any number of deaths for entertainment for their sad sick little existance.

It's the current Death Culture / Death Politics practiced by the Washington/Texas axis.

The real enemy is mortality, but it'll be decades before anyone realizes that.