To: Paul Shread  who wrote (14309 ) 8/17/2002 3:45:30 PM From: Killswitch     Respond to    of 19219  Yes... more comments from Bob. The problem may be that the guy they had on CNBC was Mr. Achuthan, while I think the guy that does the research reports is Anirvan Banerji. "Well, just like when the "first" recession started, ECRI is changing their "no double-dip" tune just before it becomes obvious - see their  latest commentary below.  It will be interesting to see how Lakshman  Achuthan changes his mind this time (explained further below in the  reposting of my last week's post for background on this point)." ... "Yesterday, at 11:57 AM EST in a CNBC interview, Lakshman Achuthan said in part, "...mortgage applications for new purchases      - they're soaring!"  This is factually wrong, as the they are more than 8% below their previous month's high, but it reflects - as      I've pointed out before - how the keeper of data often get it wrong.               Although Achuthan is the managing director for ECRI, he's not nearly as experienced or analytically proficient as their director      of research, Anirvan Banerji, who was the co-director of research for many years with the now deceased ECRI founder and      30-year leader at the National Bureau of Economic Research, Geoffrey Moore.  Moore, along with his predecessor as head of      the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Julius Shiskin, developed the leading, coincident and lagging economic indicators, and      individual diffusion indices, that the Commerce Department ultimately adopted as their own.  Nice guy that Achuthan may be, he      is not in their business cycle analysis league.               I bring this analysis competency issue up because Achuthan is seeking the attention of being the leader of the no-second-dip      economic thesis that is - on a fundamental basis- partially driving this summer rally, along with the possibility of the Fed      lowering rates next Tuesday, which is only two more business days from now.  Achuthan is too interested in publicity, and not      sufficiently interested in getting the analysis right, which may be appropriate from a marketing point of view, but caveat      emptor.               In yesterday's CNBC interview, Achuthan said that the latest recession is "just like" the brief and mild one in 1990-1.  No, it      certainly is not, and anyone drawing that parallel is not a very competent business cycle analyst, even if he's the managing      director of ECRI.               For example, look at our second attached .gif file chart and see the obvious time series pattern distinctions in the WLI, then      and now. See the complete retracement and new high in 1991 before pulling back slightly versus only a partial retracement and      sharper reversal today, especially when their index is corrected for ignoring the NASDAQ.  He commented that the two      recessions retracement, or stall, patterns were very similar.  No, they certainly are not.  And this doesn't even consider      technical and fundamental analysis of the inter- and intra-component indicators, which much be thoroughly understood to      effectively use an otherwise very simple tool.               Of course, his biggest obstacle for getting it right is his lack of understanding of the K-cycle influences, or what we have      quantified as BAAC Supercycle periods, the deflationary bear market periods of which, always include more complex and      severe recessions."