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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (169554)	8/17/2002 6:02:03 PM
From: Robert Salasidis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Judging by the lack of overclockability of their current 0.13u releases it seems implausible, and could be why AMD declined to comment on the subject.

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (169554)	8/17/2002 6:35:48 PM
From: stak	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Wanna, >>Actually, I am just admitting in advance that I would be very surprised if AMD happens to get 2.2GHz on their next processor release. They are currently at 1.8GHz, and their last four processor launches have been in tiny, 67MHz increments. That includes their .13u desktop debut, which even required a voltage hike, just to get to 1.8GHz. Overclockers confirmed very little headroom in these chips. It was as if even 1.8GHz required AMD's highest bin split parts.<< Yes, in my view, this intro is the biggest processor surprise( on either side) since Mar 2000 when AMD brought out the 1 Gig Athlon a micro second ahead of Intel's 1Gig chip. What a huge Megahertz jump! Were they sandbagging a bit? Not likely, but, it makes one wonder what Hammer could bring to the table... I now believe that a 2.0 GHz Hammer intro is a bit on the low side, despite demos at 800 MHz. Yeah, when they needed real GHz, what were those tiny 67MHz speed increments about anyways? Be nice to know what happened there one day. The .13u desktop debut was more like an end of the road last gasp speed bump rather than a debut. (Looking back, a little too good to be true, from an Intel point of view.) >>So if they can all-of-a-sudden get a 400MHz boost in their next release, that would say a lot for the kind of improvements that they were able to achieve through either process tweaks, or a redesign of the logic speed paths. It would also suggest a much brighter future, competitively.<< Yeah, little less red maybe, until Hammer arrives(in volume). What do you think about the 333 MHz bus? Does it come soon too? Does it even matter with Hammer around the corner? >>On the other hand, I also admit that things may not be as they seem. If AMD ends up paper launching these speed grades (or vapor launching, which is also a possibility), then I will obviously have to change my opinion on their future prognosis. I'll keep an eye out, and an open mind.<< Absolutely, thanks for your post. Appreciated stak PS these speed grade bumps better really juice up the sales of high end speeds or else. $70 3.0 GHz chips are just a year away. Not much time to capitalize on the laptop market either perhaps. High power 2.0 GHz will be low end very soon. Need high ASPs to come from somewhere. But where??

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (169554)	8/17/2002 8:54:47 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: I would be very surprised if AMD happens to get 2.2GHz on their next processor release. Relax. It's only going to 2.13ghz. Intel can go back to ignoring AMD.