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To: 16yearcycle who wrote (5320)	8/17/2002 8:02:27 PM
From: Jeff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 30712

i count 35 on this chart from peak to bottom... sharelynx.net ok gene.....since we called this down perfect for over 5-months now.....and only a few were here to take advantage because who else thought of showing those backwards charts of how the tops this year lined up perfect to those retracing back 1998-1997 just about perfect.. the point is.....what have you showed during that time and what calls have you made that showed how this was going down to 1190's..... where did i say 14-months left.....i once said this doesn't have to retrace in 35 months.....it could be 32 or 37.... anyway.....we have been on the right model so far.....so why i ever bother with your nonsense is beyond me.....<g> i do believe you are a zeev ass kisser.....so if thats your motivation......good luck......i suspect you will be toast if 700 ever did come.....you are looking in all the wrong places....you are doing fundamental analysis in a casino market that has daytrading hedge funds calling the shots and the buying and selling of stock is no longer about supply and demand.....its just a big game now....and thats why this market is falling apart at the seams..... history shows all bubble markets end badly.....thats all we need to know here....so we just follow the past bubble markets because they show the facts..... so keep running your numbers from none bubble markets and do your fundy analysis.....so far you have been wrong....and we are following the right path.....thats all that matters to me.....

To: 16yearcycle who wrote (5320)	9/20/2002 8:48:33 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 30712

From a FA basis - we should fall by 60% more. Naz and S&P and DOW. All of them. PEs are thru the roof. There are no earnings. Stock options eat up most of the profits that are there (if indeed there are) 1995 had the bubble years to look forward to as well as PC replacemnent cycles that we on the order of being obsolete in 3 months not 5 years. Insane growth in fiber 95% of which is unlit. There are no applications that require new PCs. Corporations are in a cost cutting environment. We have a huge credit fiasco brewing. Bankruptcies are rising, debt at all levels is thru the roof, balance of trade is at punishing levels, medical costs are rising, everybody that needs a new car bought future year sales with 0% financing. It is optimistic to think we only fall 50% from here on a FA basis. So FA says down. TA says down. Retrace says down. Valuation says down. Debt says down. Impossible to maintain consumer spending says down. How many downs do you need? As Jeff suggested, DOWN it is! Only question is how long the inevitable is delayed. M