To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3 ) 8/19/2002 9:53:19 AM From: Hawkmoon Respond to of 203 And in response to a comment about "Jim Crow" and sharecroppers as a justification for reparations:Message 17892801 Although the majority of sharecroppers were Black, such peonage also included many poor whites.lrna.org newsreel.org As for Jim Crow, they were certainly a travesty and deliberate attempt to circumvent the 14th amendment. The whole idea of "separate but equal" was obviously untenable. But then again, one must capture the mindset of the time (no matter how much we find it repugnant). Here were the Southern states, occupied by the North, with carpetbaggers from the north, and scalawags in the south, exploiting the newly awarded black votes for their own purposes in reshaping the power structure of the southern states. And while there were Jim Crow laws passed in the South, there were just as many valiant (self-serving?) efforts on the part of "Radical" Republicans who were pushing to grant full and equal rights to blacks and other non-white minorities. Indeed, there several blacks who were elected to congress during reconstruction.csusm.edu But let's face it... there was a void of power in the South, and Northern whites were hungry to fill that void and dominate and destroy any remnant of Southern Aristocracy for their own benefit. They saw profits and power, simply put. And the rest of the nation was still expanding to the west, commencing the first of many indian wars. So whatever was required to "tack down" the south was what occurred. And it was NOT a lack of effort by "Radical" Republicans to enfranchise blacks. If anything, it was the overly aggressive nature of such enfranchisement, at the expense of the entrenched southern white power structure, that resulted in guerilla/terrorist movements such as the KKK. Because blacks were pawns of the northern power establishment, and what had been a military civil war, continued by proxy via Jim Crow, where southern politicians rejected any civil rights legislation which was slammed down their throats. The turmoil created over the oppressive reconstruction acts, led to the closest presidential race in our nation's history, where political parties within Congress faced off for the presidency, and almost led to a resumption of the civil war via a drawn-out guerilla action by the KKK and others. With the "Compromise of 1877", reconstruction was halted and Federal troops withdrawn from the South. rbhayes.org But once again, if we're going to discuss "reparations" for past wrongs, women have far more justification than do any other class in our society. Hawk It's complex FL... not nearly so simple, and like the current reparations movement, one has to look at the agendas.