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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (401)	8/20/2002 11:01:20 AM
From: JohnG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 562

Malcolm Bersohn. What's the matter. Wouldn't any company give you any options. Premium price is due for premium tallent and effort. This is the opposite of a Socialist or Communist system. Now, trying to value them when they may be worth something in 5-7 years is a statistically stupid exercise. Yes there is a formula, but to say it is accurate for ectended time periods -- is silly. It is based on assumptions that are unlikely to hold up over many years.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (401)	8/20/2002 1:34:43 PM
From: golfinvestor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 562

OT <Companies that refuse to expense options will suffer. In the end they will be forced to give in.> Really. Why hasn't FASB mandated that companies expense income? Because it is handled in the footnotes per FASB. Does a company expense shares when they issue a secondary stock offering? No, because it is handled in the dilution of shares outstanding, just like stock options when they are exercised. Do you understand why companies report pro forma earnings? Because it gives the investor a window to compare operating earnings without all the extra ordinary items. The GAAP numbers are also reported so what's your beef? Stock options and pro forma reporting have been around for years and now your just waking up and sounding the bugle. Please!