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To: Eric L who wrote (21832)8/20/2002 5:40:10 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 34857
 
Well, I have always thought EDGE is a good idea, trusted the linearity improvements of the RF-guys,
filters are not that difficult according to improved sillycones, especially as CDMA demands the same.

On the more academic side I have always had a respect for the large numbers of Bernoulli, on the
avergae they are really nice, all ducks in the row, but what about when all the ducks jump out
of the row..

Academically one obviously simply averages out all those jumping ducks, but then one has to wait
for a long, long time until that little click of the enter key gets through, frustrating as a
user and a real pain if the jumping ducks are flying all over the place.

Even Gillhousen put the limit below some 1024 jumping ducks to be practical.

That is, the old problem of finding out something fast enough, or getting a much better result but
too late, especially with a moving target.

The simple answer is obviously to be adaptive, fast TDMA timeslots for fast keying, while a second or
two of buffering and averaging isn't that important for steaming, repetetive contents

However, politically, economically and globally, WCDMA was and is the first commonly agreed standard,
forming the fundamental base and behind for the roaming future.

Ilmarinen

Not that EDGE too has some similarities, the disaster of US-TDMA was based on 8-PSK and
linear RF stuff, on the narrow 30kHz AMPS bandwidth, now moving to the 200kHz of GSM and
EDGE.

And then OFDMA goes back to 4kHz bands or less, but more dynamic little slices of the
bending and twisting channel sausage. (as well as even more linearity demands for the RF-guys)



To: Eric L who wrote (21832)8/20/2002 6:10:09 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
Dr. Yrjš Neuvo Grins Disingenuously about Avoiding Forklift Upgrades

That was not exactly the title of the article, was it? Your editorial comment.

If that's the best you can do to refute the "Looking Glass" paper from DT, then that's the best you can do. But it's thin gruel.

By the way, are you familiar with the modern usages of the word "disingenuously"? Denoting insincerity is one of them.

If I were a Nokia mucky-muck discussing a technology that could result in my company losing out on a lot of infra sales because the forklifts would be unnecessary, then I would perhaps be compelled to respond disingenuously to a hard question, too.

Haven't seen a word yet from you, or anyone, for that matter, to refute the "Looking Glass" article DB let Seybold print. If you think a disingenuous grin from a Nokia VP is all it takes, then things are bad.

Perhaps someone will believe Neuvo's disingenuous grin.



To: Eric L who wrote (21832)8/21/2002 1:41:51 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 34857
 
Dr. Yrjš Neuvo Grins Disingenuously about Avoiding Forklift Upgrades

Take a look at the first entry on this web page for the reason why Neuvo grins disingenuously.

umts-disaster.com

"1997.06.01
Yryö Neuvo (Nokia) and Herschel Shosteck (Shosteck Associates) see no applications for UMTS"

The link on the Disaster web page is unfortunately gone, but it gives me a good clue as why Neuvo grins, ahem, so disingenuously.