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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (39096)8/20/2002 11:27:08 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Nadine Carroll; Re: "I just heard Phebe Marr say on NPR the other day that the vast majority of Iraqis would welcome our coming, if we helped get them a decent government. Iraq is largely urban, middle class and well educated."

About that "urban, middle class and well educated." I'd love to compare Iraq to Palestine (my guess is that Palestine is better educated, but let's take a look at Iraq and a few of their neighbors, according to the CIA:

Literacy comparison:
            Male Female
Iraq: 71% 45%
Saudi Arabia 72% 50%
Iran: 78% 66%
Syria: 86% 56%
Kuwait: 82% 75%
Bahrain: 89% 80%
Turkey: 94% 77%
Lebanon: 91% 82%
Jordan: 94% 80%
Israel: 97% 93%

cia.gov
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For those who don't want to look at the numbers I'll translate: Iraq is the stupidest country in the region. Phebe Marr is obviously clueless.

Re: "Carl, you proved that [the Turks] had been [at Barmeni] at one time four years ago, not the same thing at all as staying there."

Wrong, what I showed was that they were definitely there 4 years ago, and that "the Turkish army occasionally uses the Bamerni Airfield near Sarsang."

Re: "As for those stories you cited in the Arabic News, did you read them?"

Since the conventional wisdom is that the US is going into Iraq, there naturally are plenty of newspaper stories about how the nations in the region are going to assist. But the facts are that the officials of those countries deny it.

-- Carl