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To: jcky who wrote (39476)8/22/2002 1:52:02 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 281500
 
Thanks, jcky. As for the complications, I agree. Each of your two parts has multiple parts within it.

I saw myself as addressing only issues within the first part. And then only a few of those.



To: jcky who wrote (39476)8/22/2002 1:55:22 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 281500
 
Personally, I think Bush is laying a trap for all the naysayers....By letting the speculation run rampant, he will be able to make a very effective case when it is time to do so which demolishes all the objections and concerns which have been raised...



To: jcky who wrote (39476)8/22/2002 5:12:39 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"just because the United States can bully others does not mean it should."

Hmmm.... So let's say my kid brother is being constantly threatened by the neighborhood bully(who has NO REDEEMING QUALITIES and a rap sheet a mile long), and gets beaten up to the point where I have to step in an do some pounding of my own, then I'm the "bully""??

And if this bully, after taking the pounding I gave him, conspires and hires some friends to perform a drive-by shooting that kills some of my family, and I come across some evidence that implicates him, then I'm a "bully" for taking whatever steps are required to put him under "arrest"??

I mean it's not like we have any cops in this neighborhood. The only justice this nation receives, or deserves, is that which we implement on our behalf.

We certainly can't count on the UN as a police force, because they rely upon the US to implement their security council rulings and peace-keeping missions.

It's so sad to see all of these people hanging on to some concept of "international law" when compliance is voluntary, as well as spotty, and it's resolutions only binding by the force the US is willing to exert on the UN's behalf.

When the civilized veneer that the community of nations live under is stripped away by war and aggression by non-democratic thugs who don't acknowledge their obligation to obey that law, we're left with nothing but the ultimate primal law... The law of the jungle.

Hawk