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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (169796)	8/22/2002 6:24:53 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

I wonder what that means for "QuantiSpeed." Are they going to base it on 32-bit performance, or x86-64 performance? If it's the latter, it seems AMD will be resorting to recompiling programs for performance, i.e. the very "sin" that AMDroids accuse Intel of doing with Pentium 4. I really don't know what to expect except to not believe AMD's hype and wait until there is some real data. So far all we have still is hype. EP

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (169796)	8/22/2002 7:26:43 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Tench and others, I see a very interesting discussion on QuantiSpeed here. You might want to read some of the posts by Paul DeMone and Dean Kent. realworldtech.com This one has a point that is especially well made. realworldtech.com "The real issue brought up by Paul is that the QS ratings started out as being very conservative, and now they are just barely equivalent to the comparative P4 processor. This should be a real concern for even AMD enthusiasts. The argument I see being made here, whether intentionally or not, is that it is fine to revile Intel for marketing something that is not a true measure of performance - but it is wrong to revile AMD for marketing something that is not only based upon MHz, but is beginning to to look as if it won't keep up with the MHz equivalent peformance. Truly objective people would say that while QS was a good marketing tool for awhile, AMD needs to find something better or risk losing credibility. To state otherwise seems to be an emotional reaction to try and rationalize another bad metric..." wbmw