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To: Dan3 who wrote (87494)8/23/2002 9:37:31 AM
From: steve harrisRespond to of 275872
 
Dan,

re:The crooks at Intel should get some jail time - this is pure, unadulterated fraud. P4 is crap, and snake oil merchants at Intel faked results to sell their trash.


Makes you wonder about some of the Intel pumpers on the message boards too. Could get kinda quiet around here soon. Maybe even a few "promotions". [TM-Process Boy]

Steve



To: Dan3 who wrote (87494)8/23/2002 9:41:42 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTHRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
The crooks at Intel should get some jail time - this is pure, unadulterated fraud.

It really makes you wonder about even the average Intel engineer. I ask myself.....could I (if I were a software engineer) participate in such a blatant attempt to influence benchmark results? The answer is quite simply.... NO. No f*cking way! And yet, I get the distinct feeling that Intel has no such problems getting people to perform these tasks. In fact, I get the impression they gleefully jump to such tasks so as to more quickly earn their "badge of dishonor" This kind of stuff just makes me want to puke. AMD should force all Bapco participating companies to either publicly approve of the current (with all of the AMD exposed irregularities) process of generating benchmarks or commit to a total revamping of the benchmark process which at the very least must be totally open source.

THE WATSONYOUTH



To: Dan3 who wrote (87494)8/23/2002 10:34:20 AM
From: TGPTNDRRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Oh Dan, There you go again. Jumping conclusions.

Nobody uses those 8 old Photoshop components. So they were replaced with the thirteen new ones that represent how people really use their computers.

You do run Photoshop at least 25% of the time, don't you Dan3?

Monica

;-]



To: Dan3 who wrote (87494)8/23/2002 1:50:50 PM
From: PetzRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
The allegation that Sysmark was actually developed at Intel by Intel employees was only an allegation by an "AMD representative."

the AMD representative admitted that it is likely that all SysMark development so far has been conducted internally at Intel by Intel.

However, it should be possible to determine this by looking at the source code. Most companies have standards that are obvious in the source code. Indeed, there may be names embedded in the code.

Petz