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To: reaper who wrote (5130)8/24/2002 10:25:56 AM
From: Mike M2  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Reaper, I can understand a weak economy bringing yields down but what about the massive current account deficit and weaker dollar forcing the Fed to defend the dollar - raise rates? mike



To: reaper who wrote (5130)8/24/2002 2:25:22 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Respond to of 89467
 
with more deflation and more recession, 10yr yield could drop

I think UBS Warburg was making a shorterm call
like a 10yr yield rising to 4.4% or 4.5%
after that, we could see more bond rallies
esp with a panic in stocks

I am beginning to think June2003 TNX put contracts would be great here
these play off the TNX, which is 10x the 10yr yield
e.g. a 10yr TNote yield of 4.27% would make TNX=42.7
a June03 put with 40 strike would triple if yield went to 3.85% by late Sept
these Treasury option puts & calls trade with strong volume
they contain almost as much leverage as futures contracts
but with a tough expiration feature

perhaps a combo of long golds and option shorts on TNX
we could see the big gold gains only after a stock collapse
illiquidity comes with risks for all things financial
including gold miner stocks

the main risk I see with expecting still lower Trez yields is a wider foreign selling spree of USTrez securities

/ jim