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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 2:34:09 PM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

dude, that was awesome...How much did you have to drink last night -g- Only advice i can give you... don't talk to your girlfriend for a couple of days...if you want her to hang around. -g-

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 4:03:49 PM
From: pogbull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Local Layoffs Weaken Tulsa, Okla., Home Real Estate Market Aug 25, 2002 (Tulsa World - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX) -- The strategy of some home shoppers now is to wait for bargains. "For sale" signs are popping up in front of homes across Tulsa quicker than people are popping up and buying them. Local layoffs and the jittery economy this summer are behind the trend, real estate professionals say. Some people are putting their Tulsa homes on the market to take jobs elsewhere, while a lot of potential buyers are taking their time and waiting for deals. Or steals, as Toni Bales says. The south Tulsa real estate agent for McGraw Davisson Stewart is getting calls from out-of-state people who've heard the bad news about Williams Cos. Inc., Williams Communications Group Inc., American Airlines and WorldCom Inc. But while these callers are looking to buy low, they aren't finding the bargains they thought they would, even though Tulsa has a glut of available homes. Jason Windholz, president of Vision Investment Properties Real Estate Investor Association in Tulsa, said there's nothing new about people looking for great deals. "There have always been investors trying to steal properties," he said. Windholz noted that one anomaly has occurred since the stock market became so volatile and interest rates dropped -- membership in his real estate investors club has jumped. People are looking at real estate as a secure investment and want to learn about the process, he said. While some come to one meeting and don't show up again, but many stick with it and start searching for the right piece of property. As for homes, this summer there are more for sale and fewer selling than during each of the four years before. Properties also are sitting on the market longer. During July in the Tulsa area, there were 5,902 homes on the market, compared with 5,259 in July 2001 and 4,432 the year before, according to the Greater Tulsa Association of Realtors. These numbers account for both resale and new construction but do not include "for sale by owner" homes. From June 1 to Aug. 20 this year, 1,195 homes were sold in Tulsa. Last year, about 125 more homes sold during the same period. The difference isn't earth-shattering, but it indicates a slowdown. This is made even more significant when considering that interest rates on mortgage loans are at a 32-year-low, making home purchases more affordable. On top of that, the basic rule of supply-and-demand is having an impact on home prices -- they've fallen about $11,000 since last summer. What happens to home prices and sales in the next three to four months depends on how the motions of the market play out with the people involved, Bales said.

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 5:25:42 PM
From: pogbull	Respond to of 89467

Check out this U.S. Debt website. mwhodges.home.att.net

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 5:36:10 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

is this "the bottom is in" post?

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 7:38:24 PM
From: pogbull	Respond to of 89467

Jim Puplava interview of Doug Noland. Had to listen on real player as I couldn't find the transcript. This is exactly what we have been talking about on this thread. Near the bottom of the page. netcastdaily.com

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/25/2002 11:24:58 PM
From: crdesign	Respond to of 89467

Your attitude is infectious. Ask the folks who I've PM'd before your post. We as a society are wrong. May God have mercy on us. sad & mad, Tim

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/26/2002 11:52:57 AM
From: tonka552000	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

JW, It's good (and bad) to know you feel the same....I too, am tired of telling people to just "consider the possibilities"...our society is co-dependent with the media (all aspects).... I just got back fro a lovely getaway to one of your favorite haunts...the Outer Banks...spent most of my quiet time watching the sun set below the Sound... I was with friends...when the discussions started to go into politics, economy, and work I did my best to pull out...but they wanted to hear my thoughts...and it was like I had the venerable poka-dot duck on my head...when I spoke...silence...and then... "well, hows the family...?" Like you, sharing these thoughts, issues rubs the wrong way with people...guess I'll just stay quiet, take a good puff on my cigar and look through their naive faces. I feel bad...but... JW...I believe there are many who know the facts...don't like what they see...and have tried to inform the masses...to no avail...(perhaps a little)...it appears the majority are just that...the majority...and as the herd moves.... Keep up with your excellent posts...

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5159)	8/26/2002 3:44:14 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Geeze Jimbob, don't hold back! Get it off yer chest & say what ya really mean <gg>! "I will survive this slowmotion calamity" IF your overall premise is correct, then this statement is something to keep in mind my friend. I doubt this process, if accurate, will unfold quickly....... at first...... as the powers that be will push hard on the string to attempt to turn it around. IMO, putting your assets at risk all at once, in the belief that your premise will unfold as planned, might not be such a good idea. BWTHDIK?