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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1632)	8/26/2002 10:02:16 AM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 3959

It seems that no matter what author one reads of that era, and Maimonides is no exception, the world has to be divided into categories of people. The first category consists of the unlearned, gullible masses who are unable to grasp anything beyond day to day concerns and are easily confused, therefore should not be exposed to more knowledge than they need to know. Secondly there are those who are better educated but who lack refinement and who cannot grasp abstract concepts. Their knowledge is a limited one, yet they claim to be learned and dare criticise what they do not understand. Lastly there is the elite class, of a privileged few who truly have attained the highest level available to the human mind. This group alone, the nec plus ultra of society, understands the real meaning of things hidden to all others samizdat.qc.ca

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1632)	8/26/2002 10:10:15 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

You will recognize that much of this is very similar to the wisdom sayings in the New Testament (in fact, very exact and not just a coincidence--read the full text of The Living Talmud to see many other similarities). Also, the commentaries by the Talmud scholars are similar to the wisdom of the Desert Fathers. (The Desert Fathers material can be found within the Christian Pursuit topics on the Home Page, and especially within the Critical Advice section which contains a lot of Desert Fathers material.) Of course the big difference between the Talmud and New Testament and Desert Fathers is...no Jesus. sandalphon.com

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1632)	8/26/2002 10:59:16 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

Now let me extend your bizarre way of thinking to 2 full centuries after Maimonides and address this...Was Columbus a mere Christian criminal, or his era, his Personality and his achievements should be taken into account when examining his life and achievements in totality? indio.net They forced their way into native settlements, slaughtering everyone they found there, including small children, old men, pregnant women, and even women who had just given birth. They hacked them to pieces, slicing open their bellies with their swords as though they were so many sheep herded into a pen. They even laid wagers on whether they could manage to slice a man in two at a stroke, or cut an individual's head from his body, or disembowel him with a single blow of their axes. They grabbed suckling infants by the feet and, ripping them from their mothers' breasts, dashed them headlong against the rocks. Others, laughing and joking all the while, threw them over their shoulders into a river, shouting: 'Wriggle, you little perisher.' They spared no one, erecting especially wide gibbets on which they could string their victims up with their feet just off the ground and then burn them alive thirteen at a time, in honor of our Savior and the twelve Apostles, or tie dry straw to their bodies and set fire to it. Some they chose to keep alive and simply cut their wrists, leaving their hands dangling, saying to them: 'Take this letter' -- meaning that their sorry condition would as a warning to those hiding in the hills. The way they normally dealt with the native leaders and nobles was to tie them to a kind of griddle consisting of sticks resting on pitchforks driven into the ground and then grill them over a slow fire, with the result that they howled in agony and despair as they died a lingering death.