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To: crdesign who wrote (5286)	8/28/2002 1:04:44 PM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Timmy, Timmy...Timmy. You forget that we are being run by big oil boys, they ain't doin nuttin that weans us from oil. They have gutted anything that even suggests moving in the logical direction you suggest. Shame on you. scott

To: crdesign who wrote (5286)	8/28/2002 1:05:13 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

In whereas the US makes policy to remove themselves from oil dependence by requiring ALL newly manufactured vehicles to run on hydrogen or similar fuel cell technology. sounds good but that means that the old guard won't be raking in the big bucks anymore - the new boys will be. and we know they won't let that happen. or am i too cynical? sand monkeys? pigs? timmy, that doesn't sound like you. what happened to the sweet fellow i met? rose

To: crdesign who wrote (5286)	8/28/2002 3:07:50 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

where you gonna get the hydrogen?? Natural Gas?? Ethanol?? Don't get me wrong -- I think we need to do what is practical to "wean" ourselves -- but such strategic goals -- even getting 5% - 10% of our energy supplies from different resources doesn't happen overnight. Right now, fuel cells are simply another way of converting fossil fuel energy into usable work -- in less direct way. Even if you decided this was better than ICEs, you need infrastructure. It's HUGE and COSTLY given what is already in place. Given the current state of affairs it would wind up actually reducing fuel diversity and might even result in more consumption of fossil fuels ... I'd like to see more money spent on exploration here and in nations more friendly to us as well as "clean coal" technologies. Oil IS going to run out ... and it IS time to plan for that eventuality now, IMO. We are hostage to oil producers for the next 15 years at least whether we like it or not. That's real.