To: Gulo who wrote (511 ) 8/29/2002 7:50:48 PM From: marcos Respond to of 1293 You see those as our options - occupation by chinese, russian, or US? ... i don't, i'd pick 'none of the above' ... o canada, we stand on guard for thee .... there is no justification for foreign troops of any colours ... we are not the flat Poland stuck between the holy roman emperor and the tsars, we've got distance and topography and the ole russian ally Winter on our side, as well as a long proud and honourable military tradition - we agress on no one, but god help them who agress on us ... we have never lost a war, we've finished quite a few .... it was us who took Vimy, check upthread for a post 09 april last ... one single BC real estate agent with what, around an hundred thousands canadians, met and vanquished elements of forty-seven german divisions in the last hundred days of '14-'18, and it was us who made it back to Mons Defense funding has been bled dry in recent years, yes ... KC makes the point that Axworthy shares responsibility for that, quite correctly, he does .... that's past though, thing is what do we do now .... i say re-build a military, and a police force and coast guard, that can do the job for coming decades ... we've got the money, enough anyway, at this point we spend an unrealistically low proportion of GDP on defense, it cannot continue or we'd be handing the country over to whoever stepped up first Responsible elements in the US have a reasonable interest in seeing us do it ourselves, and do it well ... they have a legitimate concern that no threat be posed to their north, we need to understand this as part of the background ... but it is redundant to the central logic of our situation, as a good defense is in our own vital interest Agreed against wasting policing resources on victimless crimes like stupid pot prohibitions yes, but that is at the door of irresponsible legislators, not the mounties ... we actually have quality cops, all in all with few exceptions imho, there's another long proud tradition right back to the NWMP .... one reason i'd like to see terrorism handled by police when at all possible, is that way it doesn't get glorified as 'war' ... which it is not, it's just brutal mindless crime ' When i scored that final goal, i finally realised what democracy was all about.' - Paul Henderson, 1972 ... source Colombo's