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To: Mannie who wrote (5511)8/30/2002 12:50:06 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
DOES BUSH REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO IN IRAQ?

By Richard Reeves
Editorial / Op-Ed
Thu Aug 29,10:02 PM ET

NEW YORK -- The latest word from the White House, relayed to the rest of us last Tuesday by the president's counsel, Alberto Gonzales, is that President Bush ( news - web sites) does not have to and does not intend to ask anyone for permission to go to war against Iraq because of the 1991 congressional vote authorizing Desert Shield and Desert Storm, the operational names for his father's Iraq war.

They're kidding, right? Leaving aside the fact that the Congress divided almost 50-50 in those 1991 votes, Gonzales might say that the president also has the right and authority to go to war against Vietnam, Germany, Japan, Italy, Mexico, Great Britain, and the states below the Mason-Dixon line.

The president's men and women look and act like serious people, until you compare what they are saying these days. In the 24 hours or so before Gonzales issued his latest Constitution-breaker, other Bushmen offered their thoughts, conflicting ones, on the question of what we are doing and why. Vice President Richard Cheney got the most attention, saying that we don't care what other countries think; we're going ahead with the business of destroying Iraq to make the world safe for democracy everywhere -- except in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and other Arab dictatorships.

Then came Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who made some sense, if you ignore the fact that he was saying the opposite of what was coming from Bush and Gonzales. "What's important on Iraq," said Rummy, "and on other important questions about terrorist states that are seeking to have weapons of mass destruction, is that our country engage in a somewhat elevated, thoughtful discussion about what free people ought to do given the circumstances of the 21st century."

Interesting. Perhaps he should send a note to the White House explaining that 1991 was in another century.

To clear things up, Mary Matalin, who works for Cheney, stepped up to say of recent stories about war preparations: "That's what is missing from these stories. Who could have imagined 12 years ago that extremists could get to our shores?"

Am I missing something? Isn't the lady saying that the circumstances were totally different when the Congress debated, and almost defeated, the resolution supporting Desert Storm?

So now we have the vice president saying, basically, that the president's mind is made up, that he will do what is right rather than popular, while others in the White House are calling for a national debate to help the president.

The confusion is great enough that the BBC News in London, seat of what may be our only strong friend in this proposed endeavor, reported Tuesday night that the Cheney speech was a signal the vice president and the president disagreed on Iraq. A rather foolish interpretation, I thought, but perhaps that was the only way foreigners could make any sense of the babble coming from Washington in one day.

Another interpretation could be: These people don't know what they are doing and are looking for light at the end of the tunnel. Or: Folks as dumb as the rest of us don't see that this is all a great bluff to scare Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites), into allowing real inspections to determine whether he really is trying to nuke, gas and poison the rest of the world, beginning, presumably, with Israel.

Who knows? One astute observer, Lee Hamilton, former chaiorman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, sees it this way, as he told The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday: "Their public posture has to be, 'We welcome criticism.' To me, at least, the Cheney speech makes it clear that they aren't listening to it because they don't agree with it and they are going to proceed."

Proceed to where? To me, at least, the White House's public posture makes no sense because, whether or not they had decided to do something, public reaction at home and abroad has left them wondering whether they have overreached this time. And as confident as they try to sound, they don't know what to do next.

It's a dangerous posture, one that might lead to invasion to save face. We may be going to war because the people running the country right now don't know what to say next without sounding foolish -- once again.

story.news.yahoo.com



To: Mannie who wrote (5511)8/30/2002 12:55:20 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
This is the best time of year in Seattle...

We have amazing weather here in Chicago too...no humidity...sunny and in the high 70s near the lake.

Tomorrow I'm heading to Michigan for the long weekend.

You asked about the game Saturday...It could be very close...it's up to Navarre to play well because he could be the key...Washington has a tough team and a home field advantage...may the best team win...=)

Here's a recent Detroit Free Press article on Michigan's quarterback...
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DREW SHARP: Navarre still the key at U-M

August 27, 2002
BY DREW SHARP
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

Three words instantly shorten everyone's breathing in this area.

Just say "West Coast offense."

Oh, no, where are the oxygen masks?

John Navarre prefers to call it an "attacking offense." The oft-criticized Michigan quarterback is strangely calm as he approaches the next most important game in his career, Saturday's opener against Washington. He's comfortable with his new offensive coordinator, with his quarterbacks coach and with an offensive scheme that's not entirely new.

"You're going to see us passing more on first down," said Navarre, a junior. "There are going to be more short passes and spreading around the ball to take advantage of the options that we have. We want to put the ball in our playmakers' hands and let them make plays."

Sounds like a form of, dare I say, West Coast offense.

"It may sound like it, but you can call it any number of things," Navarre said. "We're not calling it that. We're just looking at it as creating an offense that doesn't come across as predictable as some might have thought in the past."

You mean no more off tackle left on first down and off tackle right on second down? That's sacrilege.

But before the hard-line Blues turn blue in the face, understand that nothing is really changing with the Michigan offensive philosophy. Objective No. 1 will be and always will be establishing a physical presence on the line of scrimmage. The inability to run the ball is like a slap in the Wolverines' faces.

When Michigan suffered a collapse late last season, it was stung mostly by a lack of toughness. The Wolverines will lose some, but rarely are they easily pushed around as they were in season-ending losses to Ohio State and Tennessee.

And the kid pushed around the most was Navarre.

His confidence was shattered. He turned tentative, which for opposing defenses is the equivalent of a shark smelling blood in the water. The conservative play-calling left him vulnerable in long-yardage situations with a shaky offensive line. When Navarre wasn't picking himself up from the turf after getting sacked, he was getting picked off -- throwing more interceptions (nine) than touchdowns (eight) in the season's final five games.

Navarre's mental toughness was questioned. Was he up to the task of satisfying 107,000 critics at each Saturday home game?

He was neither stunned nor ecstatic when Lloyd Carr officially named him the starter late last week. Carr's hesitancy created the impression that Navarre's standing was tenuous. But he wasn't fooling anyone. There was no air of controversy, not even a tinge of debate over whether Spencer Britton should start. Experience matters even more in college than it does in the NFL, and regardless of whatever difficulties Navarre endured last season, at least he can draw upon that expertise.

He had two choices: Surrender or fight back.

"There were a lot of opportunities for John to re-evaluate himself," Carr said. "I don't know if there was a certain moment when he made the commitment, but it was evident when he came back. You could see that commitment. John's a very bright guy."

Bright enough to know that a quarterback is only as effective as his surrounding talent. How good did Az-Zahir Hakim and Bill Schroeder make Mike McMahon look with those drops Saturday in the Lions' debut at Ford Field?

The offensive line in front of Navarre should be better if only because it has gotten a year of cohesiveness. But where are the playmakers? Where's the speed in the backfield? There's some exciting potential among the incoming receivers, but how much trust can you place in freshmen?

"Good quarterbacks aren't everything to the success of a team," Navarre said. "We can make the plays that we're supposed to make, hit the open receivers, keep the defenses off balance and give up the ball and still lose the game. Does that mean the quarterback played well anyway? No, it doesn't because the bottom line is what this entire team does is winning the game. And the quarterback is but one piece of that puzzle."

But it remains the biggest and most heavily scrutinized piece. Navarre might not win games, but he can't crumble from the strain and lose them. He seems to have a stronger grip on what he expects of himself and his teammates, establishing that bond of trust that makes or breaks an offense.

"I'm ready to get started," said Navarre, who will start his third straight season opener. "I'm looking forward to see what our offense can accomplish."

Whatever you choose to call it.

Contact DREW SHARP at 313-223-4055 or dsharp@freepress.com.