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To: elmatador who wrote (22026)8/31/2002 9:20:55 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 34857
 
Forgot the sharecropping aspect of that signed, long term contract, who to buy from, who to sell to
(the landowner) as well as being in debt to the landowner (ref in debt to the company store), no roaming allowed.

As well as little insentive to improve the land, paint,fix the house, neither for the sharecropper nor for the landowner.

The international problem in the 1700-1800s, and still today in some regions, with some local modificiations.
(length of leases, regulations on the contracts, how the lease is paid,etc)

One reason so many immigrated to US at the end of the 1800s, as well as one reason for the US disaster
of 1920s, "grape of wrath" (?), etc.. as well as continuation of that unspeakable earlier thing of US.

Evolved as a "free market" variation of the feudal system, caused many civil and other wars, directly or
indirectly.

Ilmarinen

Solved in finland with fairly large landreforms, in sweden by regulating the minimum lenght of the lease
(to give insentives for long term improvements by the sharecropper), one of the reasons for ending
the "priviledges" of the landowners, "death tax" to force productivity at least over some generations
(as well as have an army ready for the riots)

Other aspects, cost of terminating the lease (the SIM card, 0 in Finland), transferability of phone
number (next year), a minimum of 3-4 competing operators in every squarefoot of ether.

Or as sweden, regulation to set up a handset sharecropping contract as a handset lease, not as
a free handset (and higher monthly, per minute fees)

Basic free market capitalism, were at the moment, china is number one, europe number two, and USA last.
(europe mainly due to scandinavia, where handset "subsidies" are illegal, except for promoting, starting
new services and "locked handsets" would be a joke, would not even be according to the
GSM standard)



To: elmatador who wrote (22026)8/31/2002 10:05:31 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
In terms of the historical term of sharecropping the operator-state relation is, IMO, different than
landowner-sharecropper, one major reason that the state-operator relation is more "symmetric"
in terms of power on both sides (cmp operator-subscriber, landowner-shrcrper).

Especially true if the state is democratically elected by the endusers, with one vote-one citizen, not
one vote - one operator.

Funny, maybe, that both monopoly operators and the feudal, sharecropping systems have similar
roots, the feudal landlord was expected to guard the nation against enemies, both foreign and
local riots. Good telecommuncations were important when something happened, so telecommunication
also became a "vital interest" of both state and landlord, especially the military. (as did public roads,
highways and railroads)

Wireless is now making it possible to change that by actually having a healthy competition
without digging up all streets and yards, public or private, just a matter of sharing some masts
and setting up some rules for trading channels, as well as the old stuff of networks with a
sign of "private property, no trespassing" for the wrong kind of SMS message, data packet
or audio streams.

Luckily telecommunication has become so cheap that it almost can be trusted to the
"free markets", highways and especially railroads are still expensive to roll out.

However, IMO, the demand is that the operators are in a tight place between each other, the state
and the endusers, with the enduser deciding who runs the state.

IMO the operators should actually be sharecroppers, pay their rent every year or when renewing the
lease of the "air of the people".

However, if some aspects of common sense go wrong, the operators can just become another
way of collecting taxes, or funding tax cuts for more popularity for some politicians or dictators
(where some even hope(d) to fund the domestic tax cuts in some other nation)

Ilmarinen

All of this will be interesting in terms of extremely local WLANs and the more kind of long distance 3G.