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Strategies & Market Trends : Fascist Oligarchs Attack Cute Cuddly Canadians -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (527)	9/3/2002 3:08:20 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1293

This thread will live as long as the rivers flow, and insp pays the server bills ... upthread we were discussing the threat of US troops on canadian soil, it starts here - #reply-17930463 - and runs for maybe twenty posts ... i am opposed to the idea ... beyond opposed, it disgusts me that anyone claiming to be a son of this soil would suggest such an abject surrender of our freedom ... feel free to express your opinion on the issue ... maybe ask kholt and Steven Rogers and other stalwarts of your thread as well? Sure, politics is politics wherever you go, of course at each level of government the wider levels are used for partisan needs and especially for distraction from the failures of the party in power .... nothing like a war, be it a shooting war against say some arab tribe or a trade war against the british columbians, to rally support for the flag in which standing candidates wrap themselves, eh ... sure the same kind of thing happens internally here, the provinces against the feds, long-time war of rhetoric between Edmonton and Ottawa being the most obvious example ... but this does not hurt you mon ami, or your neighbours, any more than state-fed disputes in the US hurt us ...... turning a branch of your federal government into a Commerzwaffe cudgel for impoverishing our forestry communities is a degree so great of this phenomenon as to be a distinct kind of despicable evil And that's before you even get started on the points that 1. more US nationals than canadians are hurt by this distortion of lumber markets, albeit each to lesser degree, 2. a one-nation power running a world empire is setting yet another extremely poor and highly visible example of its conduct with such treatment, and 3. permitting some self-serving mob to run your trade department is going to screw up an eminently logical opportunity - that of a continental trading bloc 'Let's say that Canada imposed a 200% duty on all US software. And refused to budge. What choice would the US have but to appeal to the WTO? ' Well, first thing i might suggest is they cull some of the snakes in current power over the Commerzwaffe, and set up a transparent and logical process with true public accountability instead, this would eliminate the reason for retaliatory tariffs when they stop screwing us on lumber .... how many US nationals really prefer trade war with the next door neighbours to peaceful and voluntary commerce - not very bloody many would be my guess ... it's the backroom stuff that harms us all .... as for the WTO, it's a backroom without teeth, far as i know ... but i don't pretend to know much about it, beyond the fact that the US is not bound by its rulings [and presumably we are not either] '[HINT: I can turn that into a trap if need be.]' Ah, but could you shut your trap, amigo -ggg- .... about a week ago i read some of your thoughts on an attack of Iraq, caught maybe fifty posts over there .... you see it the same way i do pretty much, that if the bushistas lack evidence sufficient to convince the closest allies of a clear and present danger from SH, then how can they justify a unilateral attack on a sovereign nation ... no matter how evilly ruled, it's a precedent that would stand a long time ... if and when such evidence is presented, then i would wish my countries to participate in meaningful ways .... but here in the g.w.n. we've got a defense ministre who never heard of Dieppe and gets Vichy confused with Vimy, so i don't see much hope there, and Fox is having his own problems with el congreso right now The poster Bilow makes a strong case for no attack on Iraq under present circumstances, and no current intention of the bushistas to actually make one, fwiw