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To: JohnM who wrote (41811)9/3/2002 7:58:08 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
September 3, 2002
Turkish strands of secular and sacred
Tod Lindberg

ANTALYA, Turkey -- Wherever Turks dwell, from the Europeanized behemoth city of Istanbul in the north to the stunningly beautiful Anatolian coastal region below, where hazy mountains rising steeply from the deep blue Mediterranean unmistakably evoke arrival in Asia Minor, the two ubiquitous sights rising above the streets are the minarets of the mosques and the innumerable national flags, the bright white crescent and star on a brilliant vermilion field.
Over the past year in the United States, we have had a chance to grow used to seeing the American flag in every size and material all over the place. The flag replaced the yellow ribbon of the 1970s, 80s and 90s as a symbol of unity in adversity, a reassertion of pride of place of the nation in the lives of Americans.
It's impossible to look at all those flags flying in Turkey and see anything but a similarly robust social sense of national pride. Put it this way: No government out to create a massive display of tribute to itself could ever be as successful in dotting the flag all over the landscape than a people who decide to put flags up for themselves.
This is doubly consequential in light of the minarets. Turkey is Islamic and secular, an Islamic country on a long, deliberate and at times bumpy road to modernization via the separation of mosque from state.
I say Turkey is Islamic and secular, not that it is Islamic "but" secular. The reason is that the project of the modern Turkish state is to show that the interaction of Islam and the modern world need not always be a collision. On the success of this project, obviously, much depends.
Turkey is a country in which one may choose Islam. But then again, one may choose otherwise, from the secular life in toto to some blend of the two that affirms the authority of the Prophet while denying that it is properly a coercive political authority.
The choices have consequences, of course. The depth of the government's (and in particular, the military's) commitment to secularism lends itself to disapproval of those who seek simultaneously to choose Islamist life and public life, on the grounds that this public Islamism seeks to deny people the choice of a secular life.
Modern Turkey is thus a work in progress. When Mustafa Kemal Ataturk took power in 1923, bringing a formal end to the decaying Ottoman Empire, he did so in the conviction that only by eliminating the caliphate and Islamic law from public life could Turkey modernize and join "universal civilization," as he called it. The results are imperfect but impressive. Turkey is poor by the standards of Europe, but its people have more opportunity and are better off (discounting the oil wealth of sultans, princes and playboys) than those in many countries where Islam and government remained conjoined. Turkey's is still a transitional democracy ? but again, far more democratic than any Islamic country whose rulers eschewed Ataturk's choice or, worse, who believe that the purpose of democracy is one final election installing a coercive Islamic government.
Above all, there is the social fabric of Turkey, in which Turks themselves remain committed to the secular path they are on. Only this, I think, can account for all those flags. The Turkish national project is a commitment to choices, including Islam, but understands true choice in the context of politics to mean not the freedom to choose once and for all, but now and forever the freedom to choose.
This is very profound stuff. If Islam is a matter of choice, the freedom to choose is the individual's alone. If Islam is a legitimate choice, other choices are likewise legitimate. For those who believe that Islam is a necessity, they are free to do so, but they are not free to impose Islam as a necessity.
The implication of the success of this vision is that Islam would occupy in the Islamic world the same position that religion (here, one may speak generically) does in the Western world of today ? the "universal civilization" of which Ataturk spoke, a phrase George W. Bush has not spoken but whose spirit he frequently evokes. Believers are free to believe as fervently as they wish, but they may not coerce others. No more crusades ? and no more jihad.
If there is a shorthand expression of the true endpoint of our current difficulties, it can be read in the meaning of Turkey's skylines of flags and minarets: free to choose Islam.

Tod Lindberg is editor of Policy Review magazine and a research fellow at the Hoover Institution. His column appears Tuesdays.

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To: JohnM who wrote (41811)9/4/2002 12:18:10 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Who's Your Daddy?

By MAUREEN DOWD
Columnist
The New York Times
September 4, 2002

WASHINGTON — In the Bush family, the gravest insult is to be called a wimp.

When Newsweek published its "Fighting the `Wimp Factor' " cover about Bush senior when he was running for president in 1987, he was so angry he refused to talk to the magazine again until he had a meeting with the editors and the publisher, Katharine Graham. Mr. Bush even knew the precise number of times the word "wimp" appeared in the article.

In his memoir, Bush Junior wrote: "My blood pressure still goes up when I remember the cover."

The Bushes arranged their whole lives to put a veneer of Texas lock-'n'-load over Greenwich lockjaw.

After he buried Iraq as commander in chief, Bush Senior assumed he'd buried the W-word. And yet here it is again, the nightmare from which it is impossible for a Bush to awake, hurled at him by his own son's supporters.

As crazy Al Haig said Sunday on Fox, Bush 43 "has to be careful of the old gang. These are the people that created the problems in the first place by not handling Saddam Hussein correctly. . . . I'm talking about the previous administration and their spokesmen, Jim Baker, Scowcroft, and a very wise daddy who's not talking at all and he shouldn't."

The pathologically blunt General Haig simply spit out what other conservatives imply: Daddy wimped out in Iraq and Junior has to fix it.

You might think the United States would have an elevated debate before deciding to launch a major war against another country. But we've simply had a childish game of Chicken, with different factions sneering at one another: "You're a wimp!" "No, you're a wimp!"

The clique of conservative intellectuals pushing the war has labeled Colin Powell and the Bush I crowd wimpy "appeasers."

Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Bill Kristol echo the message of Eliot Cohen, author of "Supreme Command": "As Lord Salisbury said, `If you ask the soldiers, nothing is safe.' To which the politicians must respond, `Neither is inaction.' "

They paint the military brass as wimpy. "Powell did not want to do Bosnia," said a whack-Iraq'er. "The Pentagon was reluctant on Kosovo. On Iraq, Powell and Schwarzkopf dragged their feet on the first war. And the civilians are right this time, too. Iraq has had 11 years to comply with cease-fire arrangements on weapons of mass destruction."

The military types snipe back that the loudly squawking hawks — Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle — are war wimps. "All the generals see it the same way," said the retired Marine Corps general Anthony Zinni, a Powell adviser, "and all the others who have never fired a shot and are hot to go to war see it another way."

And Senator Chuck Hagel, a hero in Vietnam, chimed in: "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad." (Maybe he would.)

Giving a new definition of chutzpah, the conservatives pushing for war began taunting W., saying he had gone too far on Iraq to turn back now without being a wimp.

"The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said," Mr. Perle said, "would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism." Or: Nice little administration you have here; pity if something should happen to it.

The Bushies figured if they went after Saddam, whom they could find, as opposed to the vanished Osama, they would not seem wimpy.

But the more the president let Dick Cheney make the case for him, the more he risked being seen as wimpy. He was saved only by the Democrats, silent all summer, too wimpy to take on the White House and carve out their own case on Iraq.

It seems that Mr. Cheney now regards the end of the gulf war as a great historic gaffe and wants to earn his immortality correcting it.

But the more Junior goes along with his vice president and surrogate Daddy and stakes his entire presidency on trying to finish the job, the more he underscores the contention that his real Daddy went wobbly.

Last night conservatives were muttering that the inscrutable president was losing control of the debate. He could not simply persuade the Congressional leaders gathering at the White House today, they argued. He had to do something really forceful, like asking for a resolution authorizing the use of force against Saddam.

Otherwise, they warned, W. might inherit the W-word.

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To: JohnM who wrote (41811)9/4/2002 12:37:04 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Heading for Trouble
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Do we really want to occupy Iraq for the next 30 years?

By James Webb
Editorial
The Washington Post
Wednesday, September 4, 2002

Country music's most popular song this summer is a defiantly nationalistic tune by Toby Keith, in which he warns potential adversaries that if they mess with us, "we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way." Last week the Chinese government showed us its way. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage had brought a conciliatory gesture from the Bush administration, agreeing to recognize a separatist group in China's Xinjiang province as a terrorist entity. This diplomatic contortion was so appeasing that the Economist magazine labeled its logic "astonishing." And yet the day after Armitage left, the Chinese government sent its own political signal by "test-firing" a DF-4 missile, which has a range of more than 4,000 miles and was designed to attack U.S. military bases on Guam.

The implied disrespect of this incident did not occur in a vacuum, either militarily or diplomatically. As our country remains obsessed with Saddam Hussein, other nations have begun positioning themselves for an American war with Iraq and, most important, for its aftermath. China, which has pursued a strategic axis with key Islamic nations for nearly 20 years, received the Iraqi foreign minister just after Armitage's departure, condemning in advance an American attack on that country. Russia has been assiduously courting -- both diplomatically and economically -- all three nations identified by President Bush as the "axis of evil." Iran -- the number one state sponsor of international terrorism, according to our own State Department -- has conducted at least four flight tests of the nuclear-capable Shahab-3 missile, whose range of 800 miles is enough to hit U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf, Turkey and Central Asia.

Meanwhile, American military leaders have been trying to bring a wider focus to the band of neoconservatives that began beating the war drums on Iraq before the dust had even settled on the World Trade Center. Despite the efforts of the neocons to shut them up or to dismiss them as unqualified to deal in policy issues, these leaders, both active-duty and retired, have been nearly unanimous in their concerns. Is there an absolutely vital national interest that should lead us from containment to unilateral war and a long-term occupation of Iraq? And would such a war and its aftermath actually increase our ability to win the war against international terrorism? On this second point, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the Joint Chiefs vice chairman, mentioned in a news conference last week that the scope for potential anti-terrorist action included -- at a minimum -- Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Georgia, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines and North Korea.

America's best military leaders know that they are accountable to history not only for how they fight wars, but also for how they prevent them. The greatest military victory of our time -- bringing an expansionist Soviet Union in from the cold while averting a nuclear holocaust -- was accomplished not by an invasion but through decades of intense maneuvering and continuous operations. With respect to the situation in Iraq, they are conscious of two realities that seem to have been lost in the narrow debate about Saddam Hussein himself. The first reality is that wars often have unintended consequences -- ask the Germans, who in World War I were convinced that they would defeat the French in exactly 42 days. The second is that a long-term occupation of Iraq would beyond doubt require an adjustment of force levels elsewhere, and could eventually diminish American influence in other parts of the world.

Other than the flippant criticisms of our "failure" to take Baghdad during the Persian Gulf War, one sees little discussion of an occupation of Iraq, but it is the key element of the current debate. The issue before us is not simply whether the United States should end the regime of Saddam Hussein, but whether we as a nation are prepared to physically occupy territory in the Middle East for the next 30 to 50 years. Those who are pushing for a unilateral war in Iraq know full well that there is no exit strategy if we invade and stay. This reality was the genesis of a rift that goes back to the Gulf War itself, when neoconservatives were vocal in their calls for "a MacArthurian regency in Baghdad." Their expectation is that the United States would not only change Iraq's regime but also remain as a long-term occupation force in an attempt to reconstruct Iraqi society itself.

The connotations of "a MacArthurian regency in Baghdad" show how inapt the comparison is. Our occupation forces never set foot inside Japan until the emperor had formally surrendered and prepared Japanese citizens for our arrival. Nor did MacArthur destroy the Japanese government when he took over as proconsul after World War II. Instead, he was careful to work his changes through it, and took pains to preserve the integrity of Japan's imperial family. Nor is Japanese culture in any way similar to Iraq's. The Japanese are a homogeneous people who place a high premium on respect, and they fully cooperated with MacArthur's forces after having been ordered to do so by the emperor. The Iraqis are a multiethnic people filled with competing factions who in many cases would view a U.S. occupation as infidels invading the cradle of Islam. Indeed, this very bitterness provided Osama bin Laden the grist for his recruitment efforts in Saudi Arabia when the United States kept bases on Saudi soil after the Gulf War.

In Japan, American occupation forces quickly became 50,000 friends. In Iraq, they would quickly become 50,000 terrorist targets.

Nations such as China can only view the prospect of an American military consumed for the next generation by the turmoil of the Middle East as a glorious windfall. Indeed, if one gives the Chinese credit for having a long-term strategy -- and those who love to quote Sun Tzu might consider his nationality -- it lends credence to their insistent cultivation of the Muslim world. One should not take lightly the fact that China previously supported Libya, that Pakistan developed its nuclear capability with China's unrelenting assistance and that the Chinese sponsored a coup attempt in Indonesia in 1965. An "American war" with the Muslims, occupying the very seat of their civilization, would allow the Chinese to isolate the United States diplomatically as they furthered their own ambitions in South and Southeast Asia.

These concerns, and others like them, are the reasons that many with long experience in U.S. national security issues remain unconvinced by the arguments for a unilateral invasion of Iraq. Unilateral wars designed to bring about regime change and a long-term occupation should be undertaken only when a nation's existence is clearly at stake. It is true that Saddam Hussein might try to assist international terrorist organizations in their desire to attack America. It is also true that if we invade and occupy Iraq without broad-based international support, others in the Muslim world might be encouraged to intensify the same sort of efforts. And it is crucial that our national leaders consider the impact of this proposed action on our long-term ability to deter aggression elsewhere.

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The writer was assistant secretary of defense and secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company

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To: JohnM who wrote (41811)9/4/2002 6:24:03 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Leading the charge from behind a desk

By LIONEL VAN DEERLIN
Columnist
The San Diego Union-Tribune
September 4, 2002

We should attack Iraq, the sooner the better. An air war for sure, maybe ground troops too. That's up to the president. Allies? – who needs 'em? Or utilize the United Nations? Hah!

I detect a distressingly familiar pattern here. Almost without exception, it seems, the loudest voices for sending Americans into battle are raised by persons who never have been to war themselves.

A sensitive point, this. Who would argue that wisdom in foreign affairs is limited to those who have worn the uniform? I, for one, felt no smarter after four wartime years in the Army.

And yes, the world changes. From Congress on down, most persons now in government are unlikely to have seen military service. No one denies their right to sound off.

Still, I have to wonder about the raucous calls we hear for storming ramparts in far-off places. Might such clamor come with greater credibility – and surely with more grace – if raised by persons who know the sound of shot and shell?

Instead, today's warmongers are being rallied increasingly by stay-at-homes. Example: What seemed an orchestrated call for pre-emptive action against Iraq was heard, just days apart, from Vice President Cheney and the GOP's House whip, Tom DeLay.

So what bugs me? Well, Cheney obtained his college BA and DeLay his high school diploma in the very same year, 1965 – a moment that marked the height of America's troop buildup in Vietnam.

I don't propose making a peep show of long-ago Selective Service records, nor shuffling through anyone's past. Suffice it to note that neither DeLay nor Cheney enlisted, and neither was drafted for America's last major military venture. Yes, countless young men similarly avoided service in that war. But many thousand others answered the call, including more than 57,000 whose names fill a memorial wall not far from the U.S. Capitol.

In a late August address by DeLay, one might have thought we were hearing General Patton. Demanding "action now" against Saddam Hussein, the congressman juxtaposed the following thoughts: "I feel very comfortable in saying this . . . Yes, I realize there will be casualties."

DeLay might argue that he's no stranger to violence. He ran a termite exterminating business in Sugar Land, Texas.

Cheney's fighting credentials rest on his stint as secretary of Defense under the first President Bush. He speaks proudly of helping execute the six-day Gulf War, which is to say that his bunker was behind an office desk some 7,000 miles from where the bombs were bursting.

Cheney recently assured a VFW audience in Nashville, "The entire world must know we will take whatever action is necessary to defend our freedom and security."

It's been a long time since an earlier Rough Rider was vice president.

Others voicing eagerness for a first strike against Baghdad include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and the chairman of Bush's Defense Policy Board, rotund Richard Perle. Their common bond? Both look back on careers happily uninterrupted by military service.

Similarly deprived is Kenneth Adelman, a sprightly fellow who's been on most of the TV talk shows, where he describes the intended assault on Saddam as "a piece of cake." Adelman's curriculum vitae begins with his selection as President Reagan's chief arms negotiator. His Senate confirmation hearing in 1983 is remembered for a perplexing exchange on – what else? – arms control.

"Do you agree with Defense Department calculations that the nation could survive a nuclear war?" a senator asked.

"I'm not sure. I haven't given it much thought," Adelman responded.

"Do you have any idea how many Americans might be left alive after an exchange of the missiles presently on line?"

"I have no way of estimating. It's not my area of interest," said Adelman, who'd soon be our man at the arms bargaining table.

It's hardly comforting to learn this same public servant now views the Iraq venture as a piece of cake.

Nothing new here. In the late Vietnam years, Indiana Rep. Andrew Jacobs, a veteran of sustained Marine combat service in Korea, expressed an aversion for public officials who talk a strongly pro-military line but have done no fighting themselves. In the well of the House one day, Jacobs introduced and defined a new term: war wimp.

"War wimp is a noun, singular," Jacobs began. "It means someone who is all too willing to send others to war, but never got 'round to going himself. . . . "

Though the congressman named no names, Capitol newsmen began compiling a list of chest thumpers who met his definition.

War wimp – not bad. What say we keep the list updated?
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Van Deerlin represented a San Diego County district in Congress for 18 years.

Copyright 2002 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.

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