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To: TimF who wrote (150854)	9/4/2002 12:39:16 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586293

In others (other cases) they (GM) didn't do it (buy up streetcar companies) ... they had already disappeared (the streetcar companies had gone away so there was no need or even ability for GM to buy them). So why are you bringing those companies up? I never mentioned them......only the ones GM bought and dismembered. Are you always going to need things broken down in small pieces like this? Yeah, when your communication doesn't make sense......as it has lately.....not made sense that is. Now, you can keep saying it wasn't clear what GM's intent was or how I could possibly call GM's intent malicious but unless you have some new pertinent info to provide lets just drop it. No its clear enough what National City Lines (it wasn't just GM I've just gone along with using GM for convience) was up to. The question is it is malicious. GM didn't get a monopoly. There is nothing malicious about buying up a company or a number of them and shutting it down unless you do so to obtain or maintain a monopoly. In any case if the economics of the street cars worked so well a new company could have started as soon as GM shut down the old one. They bought up one system so they could tear it down and then push a whole new system that required their product. And you don't think that's malicious intent? Whatever! Show me where/when the gov't treated children, women and men like slave labor on a regular basis like corps did until the laws were changed at the turn of the century? 1 - The workers where treated poorly but they volentarily took the jobs they where not slaves. And if they really where involentary workers they where already violating the laws. I said they were treated like slave labor; "like" being the operative word. Are you really this dense or are you playing mind games? 2 - The government has used actual slaves in the past, and also maintained slavery as an institution. Really? When was that? Furthermore it has used forced prison labor, and drafted people in to the military. Neither of which are slavery. Show me where the gov't poisoned the ground in places and despoiled the water in others like corporations have done? The government is and has been the biggest polluter in the country. In many cases it tried to excepmt itself from regulations that it imposed on private industry to prevent or clean up environmental damage. Really? Again show me. Tell me when did the gov't screw people out of millions of dollars in their savings and 401s like ENE did? ENE was a case of fraud. Fraud is, was, and should be illegal. The extent to which ENE screwed people out of there 401K money has been greatly exagerated (the period of time where they where not allowed to sell was short, and almost all the decline in ENE stock happened before or after that period, also the freeze was something that was fairly normal when the administrator of a plan changes), but it did lie to all the investors (including those investing it through 401Ks). Lieing to investors is very bad, but lies from the government are not exactly rare. Also no one was forced to invest in ENE, almost everyone is forced in to the ponzi scheme that is social security. ENE was not alone in this fraud. But even if they were what does it matter re this argument. As I said, its another example of how corporations have screwed people throughout this country's history. The list goes on and on. The list for the government is longer and isn't limited to the 19th century or to a few modern cases of accounting fraud. Where did you learn American History? They clearly used different books than we did? ted