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To: Mannie who wrote (5698)9/3/2002 11:08:39 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 89467
 
roaming the old forested towns is somewhat eerie
yes, still feels like home
it is now burned in my brain that I must find my way back home
this is very tough socially and emotionally
I realize what I love so much about this area
its natural beauty is awesome
its heavy conifer assortment of trees is yearround
its historical significance is powerful
its proximity to ocean and mountains is such an advantage
its organized roadways, railways, subways is impressive
its youthful makeup is refreshing
its well-kept towns are such a delight
its snotty Cambridge is still waaaaayy cool for slumming
its numerous ponds offer many opportunities for fun

BOSTON IS THE HUB OF THE UNIVERSE

I will return, dunno how, dunno when
perhaps on the back of some kind of a jackass
but most of all I miss my numerous friends
some more than others
20 years of friends from work, neighborhoods, churches, sport clubs, they add up and are hard to replace

in Pitt, I am biding time, surviving, accumulating
hoping to one day return home from exile
an exile self-imposed from getting carried away on riding a bubble and listening to a guy who knew so little about much of anything except psychology

now I am learning that the Boston professional white collar job market is going downhill
EMC is flooding the market now with layoffs
Fidelity has let many go
the health/ medical/ pharma fields are still ripe
but they are largely closed areas for all except internally trained and worked

this will be a major challenge
somehow with the help of my Lord I will return
/ jim



To: Mannie who wrote (5698)9/4/2002 12:31:52 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Senators Wary About Action Against Iraq

By Helen Dewar and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, September 4, 2002; Page A01

President Bush has yet to make a compelling case for military action against Iraq, senators of both parties said yesterday as they returned to Washington with serious questions about the administration's war plans.

Several, including Minority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), who earlier had questioned the need for congressional authorization of force against Iraq, said they believe the administration should seek Congress's approval before an attack is launched.

Some also said the United States should try again to get Iraq to accept United Nations weapons inspectors before resorting to military action. While Iraq would probably balk, senators said, the effort could help build international support for eventual U.S. action.

The assessments came as Bush invited congressional leaders to the White House this morning to discuss terrorism issues, including policy toward Iraq, and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld planned a classified briefing for all senators later in the day. In an address to the United Nations on Sept. 12, Bush is expected to include a case for removing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, administration officials said.

The officials said these events signaled a personal effort by Bush to convince lawmakers and the world that Hussein must be ousted, but they acknowledged the efforts may fall short of what lawmakers want. White House officials contend details would be premature, since Bush has made no final decisions.

"The president will make the case, whatever decision he ultimately makes," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters yesterday. "When he does, he's confident that people, as a result of the consultation, will listen and jump to good judgments."

Fleischer said Bush will plan his response to the "menace" of Hussein "in a consultative way, in a respective way, in a listening way." He said today's meeting with lawmakers "is the president reaching out and leading" and "reaching out and listening."

Until recently, most senators had kept to themselves misgivings about a possible military strike against Iraq. But, after a month of hearing constituents' concerns about the possibility of war during Congress's summer recess, they were unusually outspoken as the Senate reconvened yesterday. The House will return today.

Even some of the president's strongest supporters suggested that, while they might support military action, they cannot do so based on what they -- and the American public -- have been told so far.

"If I voted today [on a war authorization], I would vote 'no' because I don't believe the case has been made to the American people," said Sen. Larry E. Craig (Idaho), chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee. The administration is beginning to make its case but has farther to go, said Craig, a strong backer of the administration.

Sen. Susan M. Collins (Maine), a GOP moderate, made a similar assessment. "For the United States to launch a preemptive strike on Iraq requires the administration to present a compelling case," she said. "I am still waiting to hear that case."

Lott did not go that far but said, "I do think that we're going to have to get a more coherent message together" about the threat posed by Hussein and the administration's plans to deal with it. Asked if he was comfortable with the White House's message so far, Lott said, "I'd like to have a couple more days before I respond to that."

Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.), speaking after the Democrats' weekly closed-door luncheon, said he thought "most Democrats believe that the president has yet to make the case for taking action in Iraq."

Specifically, he said, the administration needs to explain what new information it has about the threat posed by Iraq, the impact on other anti-terror efforts and on relations between the U.S. and its allies, the cost of a military invasion and plans for a post-Hussein regime. Unilateral action could have "very, very dire consequences for our country," he warned.

In briefing reporters at the Pentagon, Rumsfeld said Bush has long favored a resumption of U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq. But he questioned whether the Iraqi government would agree to the kind of inspections that would assure the world it was not making weapons of mass destruction in violation of U.N. mandates.

Asked about Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz's comment that Iraq would be willing to discuss a resumption of inspections, Rumsfeld dismissed the offer and said Aziz was clearly doing "the bidding of his master, Saddam Hussein."

"They have, over a good many years, demonstrated a wonderful talent and skill at manipulating the media and international organizations in other countries," Rumsfeld said.

He said Iraq is more of a threat now than it was a year ago.

"We know that they were a lot closer than any of the experts had estimated they would be with respect to [developing] a nuclear weapon," he said, referring to the post-1991 inspections. "To the extent that they have kept their nuclear scientists together and working on these efforts, one has to assume they've not been playing tiddlywinks."

In the Senate, some Democrats questioned the priority the administration attaches to Iraq. "The Israeli-Palestinian situation ought to be higher priority," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). "To leave it unresolved and to attack an Arab country . . . will unite the Arab world against us."

Others suggested the administration may be engaging in a rush to judgment. "Basically, I think they're pushing it too fast," said Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), a possible Democratic presidential contender for 2004.

One of the most supportive comments about the administration's Iraqi policy came from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who has tangled repeatedly with Bush on other issues. McCain said Vice President Cheney has begun to make the administration's case for military action. He predicted both houses would easily pass a war authorization resolution if one is sought.

While Bush has not said whether he will seek a vote authorizing use of force if a decision is made to attack Iraq, numerous senators said they believed he would do so, as his father, President George H.W. Bush, did for the Persian Gulf War a decade ago.

"I think a case could be made that additional authority would not be required, but I think that the reality is -- and the political preference is -- that Congress be engaged and be a supportive and willing partner," Lott said.

Daschle took a tougher line. "We have a constitutional responsibility, and we intend to enforce that responsibility," he said.
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Staff writer Vernon Loeb contributed to this report.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company

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To: Mannie who wrote (5698)9/4/2002 6:25:42 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Leading the charge from behind a desk

By LIONEL VAN DEERLIN
Columnist
The San Diego Union-Tribune
September 4, 2002

We should attack Iraq, the sooner the better. An air war for sure, maybe ground troops too. That's up to the president. Allies? – who needs 'em? Or utilize the United Nations? Hah!

I detect a distressingly familiar pattern here. Almost without exception, it seems, the loudest voices for sending Americans into battle are raised by persons who never have been to war themselves.

A sensitive point, this. Who would argue that wisdom in foreign affairs is limited to those who have worn the uniform? I, for one, felt no smarter after four wartime years in the Army.

And yes, the world changes. From Congress on down, most persons now in government are unlikely to have seen military service. No one denies their right to sound off.

Still, I have to wonder about the raucous calls we hear for storming ramparts in far-off places. Might such clamor come with greater credibility – and surely with more grace – if raised by persons who know the sound of shot and shell?

Instead, today's warmongers are being rallied increasingly by stay-at-homes. Example: What seemed an orchestrated call for pre-emptive action against Iraq was heard, just days apart, from Vice President Cheney and the GOP's House whip, Tom DeLay.

So what bugs me? Well, Cheney obtained his college BA and DeLay his high school diploma in the very same year, 1965 – a moment that marked the height of America's troop buildup in Vietnam.

I don't propose making a peep show of long-ago Selective Service records, nor shuffling through anyone's past. Suffice it to note that neither DeLay nor Cheney enlisted, and neither was drafted for America's last major military venture. Yes, countless young men similarly avoided service in that war. But many thousand others answered the call, including more than 57,000 whose names fill a memorial wall not far from the U.S. Capitol.

In a late August address by DeLay, one might have thought we were hearing General Patton. Demanding "action now" against Saddam Hussein, the congressman juxtaposed the following thoughts: "I feel very comfortable in saying this . . . Yes, I realize there will be casualties."

DeLay might argue that he's no stranger to violence. He ran a termite exterminating business in Sugar Land, Texas.

Cheney's fighting credentials rest on his stint as secretary of Defense under the first President Bush. He speaks proudly of helping execute the six-day Gulf War, which is to say that his bunker was behind an office desk some 7,000 miles from where the bombs were bursting.

Cheney recently assured a VFW audience in Nashville, "The entire world must know we will take whatever action is necessary to defend our freedom and security."

It's been a long time since an earlier Rough Rider was vice president.

Others voicing eagerness for a first strike against Baghdad include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and the chairman of Bush's Defense Policy Board, rotund Richard Perle. Their common bond? Both look back on careers happily uninterrupted by military service.

Similarly deprived is Kenneth Adelman, a sprightly fellow who's been on most of the TV talk shows, where he describes the intended assault on Saddam as "a piece of cake." Adelman's curriculum vitae begins with his selection as President Reagan's chief arms negotiator. His Senate confirmation hearing in 1983 is remembered for a perplexing exchange on – what else? – arms control.

"Do you agree with Defense Department calculations that the nation could survive a nuclear war?" a senator asked.

"I'm not sure. I haven't given it much thought," Adelman responded.

"Do you have any idea how many Americans might be left alive after an exchange of the missiles presently on line?"

"I have no way of estimating. It's not my area of interest," said Adelman, who'd soon be our man at the arms bargaining table.

It's hardly comforting to learn this same public servant now views the Iraq venture as a piece of cake.

Nothing new here. In the late Vietnam years, Indiana Rep. Andrew Jacobs, a veteran of sustained Marine combat service in Korea, expressed an aversion for public officials who talk a strongly pro-military line but have done no fighting themselves. In the well of the House one day, Jacobs introduced and defined a new term: war wimp.

"War wimp is a noun, singular," Jacobs began. "It means someone who is all too willing to send others to war, but never got 'round to going himself. . . . "

Though the congressman named no names, Capitol newsmen began compiling a list of chest thumpers who met his definition.

War wimp – not bad. What say we keep the list updated?
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Van Deerlin represented a San Diego County district in Congress for 18 years.

Copyright 2002 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.

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