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To: michael97123 who wrote (65558)	9/4/2002 11:15:19 AM
From: BWAC	Respond to of 70976

<For America, the logic of the Bush Doctrine of Pre-emptive War points to war without end.> And there you have it.

To: michael97123 who wrote (65558)	9/4/2002 11:19:50 AM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

>> The Cheney Doctrine: War without end Finally some intelligence has crept into the debate.

To: michael97123 who wrote (65558)	9/7/2002 10:19:50 AM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

I am surprised that Patrick Buchanan remember so little of the history he was surely aware off. Yes, Stalin and Khrushchev did not engage in nuclear blackmail, bu do you know what led Khruchshev to try it in Cuba? It was our meek response to Bulganin's nuclear blackmail in 1956. Khruchshev would have not gotten us to the brink of a nuclear confrontation if that prior yielding did not indicate to the Soviets that our resolve is less than "complete". It took Kennedy's "ball squeezing" (and negotiating away some Turkish outdated missile sites) to remove that threat. Frankly, I do not think that we will go to war with Iraq, simply for the reason that there are no strategic goals that cannot be achieved without blood shed and war. Furthermore, without an actual open provocation from Saddam (and the man is very careful not to provide any excuse), such a unilateral action will open the international scene to endless regional "preemptive" strikes, each based on the "notion" that a "clear and present danger" exists. An "unprovoked" attack on Iraq will set a new international precedence as to "when preemptive strikes" are justified. It will lower the barriers to armed conflicts, and could eventually plunge the world in fires from tens of regional conflicts. Zeev