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To: Neocon who wrote (56835)	9/4/2002 1:37:02 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

There was a culture of death out of which the Roman "games" grew. This was originally that of animal sacrifice. It got escalated. There were many willing participants in these games and death of the opponent was exalted in a nearly religious frenzy. Hero status elevated you to nearly that level of the Gods. I think sports touch this part of the human psyche. Bull fighting is clearly a continuation, in both degree and kind, of the games, if not the scale.

To: Neocon who wrote (56835)	9/4/2002 1:38:53 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I will be interested in Cosmic's response to your contention that Atheism increases the motivation to act out of a desire for glory, and therefore by implication increases the likelihood of wars, since he was earlier positing that the elimination of religious tendencies among mankind would lead to peace. Basically, I do agree with you, though I wouldn't press the atheism argument to the extent that you do. But, yes, the "for God and Country" could easily be "for God or Country," so that if there is no God, Country will do just as well.