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To: marcos who wrote (552)	9/5/2002 4:47:51 AM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1293

Grow up!!! Manley tells marcos.... By SHAWN McCARTHY From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Wednesday, September 4 – Online Edition, Posted at 1:44 AM EST Ottawa — Canadians need to "grow up" and stop acting like sulky children when it comes to their relationship with the United States, federal Finance Minister John Manley said Tuesday. HA HA HA!!! Mr. Manley said Canada is an equal partner with the United States in world affairs, and it's time Canadians act that way. "The relationship that we have with the United States is one that needs to be more mature," said Mr. Manley, the government's point man on bilateral relations. "We need to stop thinking of ourselves as a junior partner because when we look at ourselves as junior, we're constantly perceiving slights and looking at things that just aren't that important." Mr. Manley said the Canada-U.S. relationship has fared well through the turmoil of the post-Sept. 11 world, despite demands for greater security at the border and concerns about the direction of a U.S.-led war on terrorism. But there have been bumps. Critics complained that Prime Minister Jean Chrétien was slow and less than enthusiastic in his support for the United States in the initial days after the terrorist attacks. Canadians bristled when U.S. President George W. Bush neglected to mention Canadian support in his State of the Union address last winter, and again when he was slow to comment on the accidental bombing of Canadian troops in Afghanistan by a U.S. fighter pilot. Mr. Manley said Canadians should not let perceived slights or occasional disagreements dictate their feelings toward the United States. "There are no people on the planet that are more close to us in terms of the value structure and everything else than is the United States, so let's just grow up and live with it," he said. A number of Liberal MPs, including senior members of the Commons foreign-relations committee, complained publicly this summer about U.S. unilateralism on the international stage. A caucus committee has been struck to find ways to improve Canada's clout in Washington. Mr. Manley, who is also Deputy Prime Minister, is considered to be among the most pro-American of cabinet ministers. He said yesterday that he does not believe Canada has sacrificed its interests to those of its bigger neighbour in the response to the Sept. 11 attacks. "The things that we've done militarily and otherwise were the right things to do, not because we were going to be thanked by the Americans, but because they were the right things to do at the time of an international crisis," he said. Next week, Mr. Chrétien is to meet with Mr. Bush in Detroit to give their blessing to a series of border initiatives aimed at improving traffic flow while maintaining security. Mr. Manley met privately last week with U.S. Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge, who has committed to provide more money for border infrastructure and staffing on the U.S. side of the border. The Deputy Prime Minister said that Sept. 11 has provided an impetus for both sides to fix longstanding border problems that are causing lengthy delays at the busiest crossings. He said the United States has agreed to set up dedicated lanes for previously cleared commercial and passenger traffic, which Canada has pushed for years. That will allow frequent, cleared traffic to cross the border more quickly while officials will focus on higher-risk traffic. The two sides have committed to negotiate a "safe-third-country" agreement on refugees that would allow Canada to turn back refugee claimants who enter the country from the United States. Mr. Manley said the Chrétien-Bush meeting should give impetus to concluding those deals, though officials in Ottawa don't expect much movement on irritants such as the fight over softwood-lumber trade. The Deputy Prime Minister said Canadians would be naive to believe that close ties with the United States — and military support during their action in Afghanistan — would result in a U.S. policy change. "Trade issues are progressing in the ordinary course — some to our liking, some not," he said.

To: marcos who wrote (552)	9/5/2002 8:42:06 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1293

That's some phoney US 'bill', not an act Made In The GWN You think any bill passed by the US Congress is phoney, eh? Good. Then I expect to hear no more whines from you about wood. Because that was a phoney bill. <more of the leftwing nuttery that is marcos' trademark follows> And we are americans No. You are North Americans. We have the trademark on "American". And you know it, resent it though you may. Actually, you are un norteamericano. So why are you pretending to be Canadian? What kind of good Canadian name is "marcos", anyway? You mean 'US nationals' here of course No, boy. I mean what I said. AMERICANS. Don't forget it.