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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (170743)9/6/2002 6:19:23 PM
From: willcousa  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
I like the characterization of 4.4 billion sales as "lackluster".



To: wanna_bmw who wrote (170743)9/6/2002 6:20:16 PM
From: L. Adam Latham  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
wanna_bmw:

Re: SAP software was recently announced...

Another bullish sign would be an announcement from SAS regarding Madison. Before I left Intel, I worked closely with SAS on their Itanium migration. Their software, like SAP, is a great high-end application, and should do well on Madison.

Adam



To: wanna_bmw who wrote (170743)9/7/2002 12:34:01 AM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: Here come the high end Itanium demonstrations

All this sturm und drang over Itanic, when, in a little over a year, it will have been buried by Hammer or Hammer and Yamhill.

These low volume chip architectures are a dead end. Look at Alpha, look at PA-RISC. If they are the only hardware that can run unique software, like Sparc running Solaris or PowerPC running AIX, they can make some economic sense.

But why pay $100,000 for a 4-way windows or linux box running a squirrely, low volume, chip when you can get the same thing for $10,000 using standard chips. And the box running standard chips has 1,000 times as many software applications available for it, and your developers can develop and debug on their desktops. You can even bring in contract programmers in a pinch, without having to pay $50,000 per seat for them to have something to write software on.

Itanic was a bad idea even when it looked like Intel would be competing only with its own standard chips (which could be crippled). With AMD showing 8-way, 64-bit servers that run Windows and Linux, Intel can either kill Itanic with Yamhill, or watch AMD kill it with Hammer.

But, either way, Itanic is doomed.