To: techtonicbull who wrote (51423 ) 9/8/2002 12:53:44 PM From: I Am John Galt Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865 In my opinion, X-86 Windows did not provide competition for Sun and still does not today. Windows Server technology, while having the database components and SQL capabilities, still possess security issues and database limitations. Plus, everyone and their mother seems to be writing viruses that takes Windows 2000 down... They've already had 3 service packs released and by the end, I'm expecting around the amount they released for NT... 7 (6 & 6a). The funny thing is they would've done better to release another service pack for NT (in light of the Nimda virus threat) but just stopped because they found it wasn't worthwhile to them. Any IT Director knows that it's not in his best interest to have core database servers or web servers on an NT-based platform (unless, of course, you do low level/low priority tasks). What McNealy's attitude towards Microsoft is is somewhat irrelevant, in my estimation. I am glad he is going after them re: the Java compatibility, because I think that's important. Personally, I think that the only short term partnership that Sun and Microsoft could have is an Office version for Solaris. Obviously, that's pointless with the inception of StarOffice. The only relevance MSFT has with SUNW in terms of having a direct effect is in two areas. 1) The Java compatibility. I think that's self-explanatory. 2) The mindset of the computer community as a whole. We all know that Linux, for all of its benefits, is still a somewhat limited OS. But because MSFT and INTC have been able to make the world believe that the Pentium chip is the standard, it takes away from the credibility of the SPARC and Solaris. That's why Big Blue has posed a possible threat to Sun, although Sun's systems are still superior. In tech, the most important thing for Sun to keep trying to do is turning innovation into money. And that's what they're doing.