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To: Roger A. Babb who wrote (294409)9/8/2002 5:37:49 PM
From: greenspirit  Respond to of 769670
 
Roger, these two articles lay out who we're up against rather well.

First..

Last Totalitarians
by Brink Lindsey, Senior Fellow, Cato Institute
September 28, 2001
cato.org

What President Bush has called the first war of the 21st century has much in common with the great wars of the century just past. Now, as then, the root cause of the carnage lies in radical discontent with modern industrial society — a hydra-headed historical phenomenon that is well described as the Industrial Counterrevolution.

At first glance, shadowy Islamist terrorists look very different from any enemy we have ever faced. And indeed, the tactics they employ are novel, as are the tactics that must be used to defeat them. But the fundamental nature of our present adversaries, once seen plainly, is all too familiar. The evil we confront today is the evil of totalitarianism: Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and their coconspirators are the modern-day successors of Lenin and Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot.

The atrocities of today's terrorists are the last shudder of a historical convulsion of unprecedented fury and destructive power. It was spawned by the spiritual confusion that accompanied the coming of the modern age, and consists of a profound hostility toward the disciplines and opportunities of human freedom. With the collapse of the Soviet Empire we thought we were done with totalitarianism. But it lives still, and lives to do harm. As we prepare once more to face this old and dangerous adversary, we need to reacquaint ourselves with its origins and nature.

To understand what gave rise to the totalitarian plague, you have to appreciate the radical historical discontinuity represented by the technological dynamism of the past 150 years. In the second half of the 19th century, various strands of economic development — new energy sources, new production techniques, breakthroughs in transportation and communication — were woven into new organizational forms to produce a wealth-creating capacity of unprecedented scale, complexity, and power. It was during this great confluence that the scientific method was first systematically integrated into economic life; technological and organizational innovation became normal, routine, and ubiquitous. Nobel prize-winning economist Douglass North refers to the "wedding of science and technology" as the "Second Economic Revolution" — the first being the advent of agriculture ten millennia ago.

The Industrial Revolution was the economic expression of a much more general transformation, a radical new form of social order whose defining feature was the embrace of open-ended discovery: open-endedness in the pursuit of knowledge (provisional and refutable hypotheses supplanting revelation and authority), open-endedness in economic life (innovation and free-floating market transactions in place of tradition and the "just price"), open-endedness in politics (power emerging from the people rather than the divine right of kings and hereditary aristocracies), and open-endedness in life paths (following your dreams instead of knowing your place). In short, industrialization both advanced and reflected a larger dynamic of liberalization — a dramatic and qualitative shift in the dimensions of social freedom.

The emergence of this new liberal order in the North Atlantic world came as a series of jolting shocks. Kings were knocked from their thrones or else made subservient to parliaments; nobles were stripped of rank and power. Science displaced the earth from the center of the Universe, dragged humanity into the animal kingdom, and cast a pall of doubt over the most cherished religious beliefs. As if these assaults on age-old verities were not enough, the coup de grace was then applied with the eruption of mechanized, urbanized society. The natural, easy rhythms of country life gave way to the clanging, clock-driven tempo of the city and the factory, and new technologies of miraculous power and demonic destructiveness burst forth. Vast riches were heaped up in the midst of brutal hardship and want; new social classes erupted and struggled for position.

In countries outside of the North Atlantic world, the experience of modernization was, if anything, even more vertiginous. Social changes were often accelerated by the confrontation, all at once, with Western innovations that had taken decades or centuries to develop originally. Moreover, these changes were experienced not as homegrown developments, but as real or figurative conquests by foreign powers. Modernity thus came as a humiliation — a shocking realization that the local culture was hopelessly backward compared with that of the new foreign masters.

It is unsurprising that, in all the wrenching social tumult, many people felt lost — adrift in a surging flux without landmarks or firm ground. The deepest thinkers of the 19th century identified this anomie as the spiritual crisis of the age: Friedrich Nietzsche proclaimed the death of God, while Max Weber wrote of society's "disenchantment." But it was Karl Marx who traced most clearly the connection between this spiritual crisis and the economic upheavals of his day. As he and Friedrich Engels wrote in this breathtaking passage from the Communist Manifesto:

Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relationships, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned….

Thus did industrialization beget a massive backlash — a reaction against the dizzying plenitude of open-endedness, a lurch toward some antidote to the jarring, jangling uncertainty of a world where "all that is solid melts into air." The Industrial Counterrevolution was protean and, in its many guises, captured minds of almost every persuasion. But in all its forms, it held out this promise: that political power, whether at the national or global level, could recreate the simplicity, certainty, and solidarity of preindustrial life. The appeal of that promise powered a disastrous century of collectivist experimentation.

The promise of redemption through politics — of reintegration into some larger whole — was present even in the milder incarnations of the collectivist impulse. As against the "chaos" and "anarchy" of the market order, a central state with expanded fiscal and regulatory powers offered the reassurance that somebody was "in charge." In particular, the nationalization or regulation of previously autonomous private enterprises reasserted the primacy of the group, which had always held sway in earlier times. In all the various permutations of incremental collectivism — social democracy, the welfare and regulatory state, Keynesian "fine tuning," development planning — the emotional appeal of group cohesion buttressed the intellectual arguments for greater government involvement in economic life.

But it was in the radical centralizing movements of totalitarianism that the rebellion against open-endedness overwhelmed all other considerations. Robert Nisbet, in his seminal Quest for Community, identified the rise of totalitarianism in modern times as an effort to recreate, through the state, the lost sense of community that had obtained in the premodern world. "The greatest appeal of the totalitarian party, Marxist or other," wrote Nisbet, "lies in its capacity to provide a sense of moral coherence and communal membership to those who have become, to one degree or another, victims of the sense of exclusion from the ordinary channels of belonging in society."

And in his great but too little remembered 1936 book, The Good Society, Walter Lippmann diagnosed the totalitarian threat as a "collectivist counter-revolution" against industrial society's complex division of labor. "[T]he industrial revolution," he wrote, "has instituted a way of life organized on a very large scale, with men and communities no longer autonomous but elaborately interdependent, with change no longer so gradual as to be imperceptible, but highly dynamic within the span of each man's experience. No more profound or pervasive transformation of habits and values and ideas was ever imposed so suddenly on the great mass of mankind." Opposition to that transformation, he continued, had hatched the monstrous tyrannies that at that time menaced the world:

[A]s the revolutionary transformation proceeds, it must evoke resistance and rebellion at every stage. It evokes resistance and rebellion on the right and on the left — that is to say, among those who possess power and wealth, and among those who do not…. Though these two movements wage a desperate class struggle, they are, with reference to the great industrial revolution of the modern age, two forms of reaction and counter-revolution. For, in the last analysis, these two collectivist movements are efforts to resist, by various kinds of coercion, the consequences of the increasing division of labor.

The misbegotten secular religions of totalitarianism won their devoted and ruthless followings by offering an escape from the stresses of modernity — specifically, from the agoraphobic panic that liberal open-endedness roused. They aspired to "re-enchant" the world with grand dreams of class or racial destiny — dreams that integrated their adherents into communities of true believers, and elevated them from lost souls to agents of great and inexorable forces. With their insidiously appealing lies, the false faiths of communism and fascism launched their mad rebellion against the liberal rigors of questioning and self-doubt — and so against tolerance and pluralism and peaceable persuasion. They inflicted upon a century their awful, evil perversion of modernity: the instrumentalities of mass production and mass prosperity twisted into engines of mass destruction and mass murder.

The liberal revolution survived the reactionary challenge. Fascism was put to rout, at horrible cost, in the great struggle of World War II; Communism was contained and waited out until it imploded, just a decade ago. And coincident with Communism's demise has come a global rediscovery of liberal ideas and institutions. Free markets and democracy have registered impressive gains around the world. However, the dead hand of the collectivist past still exerts a powerful influence: The inertia of old mindsets and vested interests blocks progress at every turn, and so our new era of globalization is a messy and sometimes volatile one. But it is an era of hope, and of possibility.

As the horrible events of September 11 made clear, we are not yet finished with the totalitarian threat. In the tragic, broken societies of the Islamic world — where free markets have gained little foothold, and democracy even less — radical hostility to modernity still festers on a large scale. And it has given rise to a distinctive form of totalitarianism: one that uses a perverted form of religious faith, rather than any purely secular ideology, as its reactionary mythos. For the past quarter-century, radical Islamist fundamentalism has roiled the nations in which it arose. Now it has reached out to wage a direct, frontal assault on its antithesis — its "Great Satan": the United States.

Despite the trappings of religious fervor, Islamist totalitarianism is strikingly similar to its defunct, secular cousins. It is an expression, not of spirituality, but of anomie: in particular, a seething resentment of Western prosperity and strength. Consider the origins of the Muslim Brotherhood. Founded in 1928 to resist the British presence in Egypt, the Brotherhood was the original radical Islamist terror network. As detailed in David Pryce-Jones' powerful The Closed Circle, the official account of its formation records this statement at the group's initial meeting: "We know not the practical way to reach the glory of Islam and serve the welfare of Muslims. We are weary of this life of humiliation and restriction. Lo, we see that the Arabs and the Muslims have no status and dignity."

And — just like its Communist and fascist predecessors — Islamist totalitarianism seeks redemption through politics. It is animated by the pursuit of temporal power: the destruction of the "decadent" (i.e., liberal) West and creation of a pan-Islamic utopian state featuring unrestrained centralization of authority. Whether the utopian blueprint calls for mullahs, commissars, or Gauleiters to wield absolute power is of secondary importance: It is the utopian idea itself — the millennial fantasy of a totalitarian state — that unites all the radical movements of the Industrial Counterrevolution.

The point bears emphasis. Radical Islamist fundamentalism not does content itself with mere rejection of the West's alleged vices. If that were all there was to it, its program might be simply to stage a retreat from modernity's wickedness — to do, in other words, what the Amish have done. But Islamist totalitarianism, though it claims otherworldly inspiration, is obsessed with worldly power and influence. It does not merely reject the West; it wants to beat the West at its own game of worldly success. Osama bin Laden is constantly claiming that the United States is weak and can be defeated; he and his colleagues lust for power and believe they can attain it. And so, although it attempts to appropriate a particular religious tradition, Islamist totalitarianism is not, at bottom, a religious movement. It is a political movement — a quest for political power.

Indeed, Islamist fundamentalism shares with other totalitarian movements a commitment to centralization not just of political power, but of economic control as well. Consider Iran, where the first and greatest victory for Islamist totalitarianism was won. As Shaul Bakhash describes in his Reign of the Ayatollahs:

[T]he government took over large sectors of the economy through nationalization and expropriation, including banking, insurance, major industry, large-scale agriculture and construction, and an important part of foreign trade. It also involved itself in the domestic distribution of goods. As a result, the economic role of the state was greatly swollen and that of the private sector greatly diminished by the revolution.

Today, the sectaries of radical Islamism continue to uphold various collectivist strains of "Islamic economics" — trumpeted as righteous alternatives to the secular and individualist corruption of "Eurocentric" globalization.

Before the September 11 attacks, it appeared that Islamist totalitarianism was a movement in decline. In the decades since the Iranian revolution, formidable Islamist opposition movements have built up around the Islamic world, but totalitarian regimes have come to power only in the Sudan and Afghanistan — backwaters even by regional standards. Elsewhere, insurgencies have been crushed (in Syria) or at least brutally repressed (in Algeria, Egypt, and Chechnya). In Iran, revolutionary fervor steadily gave way to disillusionment and cynicism; the reformist government of Mohammed Khatami has moved gingerly toward a more moderate course.

In the wake of September 11, it is unclear whether the U.S. military response will precipitate a new wave of radicalization in the Islamic world — one which might topple existing regimes and bring totalitarians to power. It is unclear whether terrorists will be able to outmaneuver the escalation of security and intelligence activity now underway, and bring off further successful attacks in the United States or elsewhere. It is, in short, unclear what further horrors must be endured, at home and around the world, because of Islamist totalitarianism.

But this much is clear: The United States is now at war with the totalitarians of radical Islamism. And in prior conflicts with the totalitarian impulse of the Industrial Counterrevolution, the United States has been undefeated. Americans triumphed first over fascism, then over Communism — movements with ideologies of potentially global appeal, and with political bases in militarily formidable great powers. Americans will rise again to this latest challenge. Unlike its predecessors, radical Islamism speaks only to the disaffected minority of a particular region, and none of the governments of that region holds any hope of prevailing against the resolute exercise of U.S. power. However long the present war must last, and however costly it must be, the final outcome cannot be doubted: interment of Islamist totalitarianism in what President Bush so stirringly referred to as "history's unmarked grave of discarded lies."



To: Roger A. Babb who wrote (294409)9/8/2002 5:38:42 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Second...

By Ali Kazemi September 21, 2001 The Iranian
iranian.com

The September 11 attack was not a new war. It started long before the Persian Gulf War or the creation of Israel. It is much older than that. It is a war that Giordano Bruno fought over 400 years ago. He was imprisoned, tortured and burned at the stake. He won his war.

Giordano was born in 1548 in Italy. He became a Dominican priest after his monastic education. He was intelligent and outspoken. He wrote several books, none of which are read much today. Bruno was interested in the nature of ideas and truth. He was an early epistemologist and constantly challenged the traditional knowledge methods. He learned about the Copernican theories and took them up enthusiastically. He believed that earth revolved around the sun. This was contrary to the church's teaching that the earth was stationary and the sun revolved around it. "Who laid the foundations of the Earth, that it should not be removed forever." Psalms 104:5. Giordano, against Catholic dogma, also believed in an infinite universe. He traveled around Europe for 14 years giving lectures.

He went back to Italy in 1593 and was immediately imprisoned as a heretic. They kept him in the papal dungeon where he was tortured and interrogated many times and finally was convicted by the chief theologians after 10 years. He twice promised to recant but changed his mind both times at the last minute and resumed his "foolishness". The theologians sentenced him to be burned to death. His defiant answer was "Perhaps you, my judges, pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it." He was given eight more days to repent and save himself. But it was no use. In February of 1603, as he was being burnt to death, a crucifix was offered to him to save his soul. He fiercely pushed it away. Bruno and many like him sacrificed themselves and pulled Europe out of the Dark Ages.

Europe embarked on an age of discovery, creation, exploration, innovation and invention in arts, sciences, literature, economics, geography, philosophy, and other human endeavors. Europe's progress during the Renaissance was truly rapid and gathered more steam every decade until it finally became explosive with the Industrial Revolution. Europe that had been in many ways more backward than the Middle and Far East had left them in the dust by the 19th century and the gap has been widening ever since. In the West, the battle between Traditionalism and Modernism went to the latter a long time ago. As a result Western societies are now pluralistic, democratic, and prosperous.

There have been different reactions to the great Western advances in Iran and the rest of the Middle East. There have long been various conspiracy theories to explain their own slow rate of advancement. They all basically place the blame in various places but never at home: It is the West that has kept us back. They deny any inherent advantages in Modernity and assign Western advancements solely to their duplicity and unfair dealings against the East. The forces of Modernity have had a hard time in Iran the last century. The Modernist Pahlavi lost to the Traditionalist Khomeini after decades of Iranian intellectuals dismissing Western values as corrupt and not relevant to us. Our leftist and Islamic intellectuals coined the phrase of "Gharbzadegi", or Westoxication, but we suffered from Hesperophobia (fear or hatred of the West) a common affliction in Middle East.

Let's be clear on why these terrorists and their Taliban backers have declared war on the U.S. Contrary to what many of their apologists claim, it is not because of Israel. Israel is fairly low on Osama Bin Laden's list of grievances. His primary grief is over the presence of the "infidel" American troops in Islam's holy land of Saudi Arabia. American "infidels" are considered to be "befouling" the Arabian Peninsula because they represent a different civilization -- a modern civilization that is increasingly threatening to swallow their own traditional one. They hate the "Great Satan" because it is strong, democratic, free, pluralistic, prosperous and advanced. This is not easy to accept if you think of your civilization as divinely inspired. They are killing because nobody is listening to them. How can there be a dialogue" of civilizations when one side really has nothing valuable to say.

I don't know if anyone remembers this Iranian poster. It was also made into a postal stamp. It was a painting of Khomeini in a heroic posture holding up the flag of Islam. He was standing on top of the world. Khomeini and the flag easily dwarfed the globe beneath them. The message was clear. They wanted to export their backward revolution but they ran into domestic problems and became less ambitious. But Khomeini's fallen flag has been picked up by various Islamic fundamentalist groups.

They believe in a utopian golden age of Islam that never was and never will be. They want the West and its biggest representative U.S. to totally disengage from the Middle East so they can take over. They are opposed to the introduction of modernity and plurality in the region. That does not mean just Israel. It means Egypt, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Persian Gulf and Caucus states. They want to finish what Khomeini and Taliban's Mullah Omar have started. They condemn the governments of these states not for being autocratic, but for the same reason Khomeini and his ilk fought the Pahlavi regime. They want totalitarian theocracies not democracies. They want more Taliban.

Our many imprisoned journalists, writers and dissidents are doing the same thing for Iran that Giordano Bruno did for Europe 400 years ago. Velayate Faghih in Iran which is really a more polished version of the Taliban, is trying to prevent the Iranian Renaissance. They may now learn a lesson by watching the fate of the Taliban.

The recent war on these enemies of freedom is not going to finish them forever. This is an old war. But they must be pushed back because they have pushed us too far. There is nowhere to go after the U.S. We have to make our stand against them here and now. This is a war of ideas. Traditionalism vs. Modernism, Totalitarianism vs. Pluralism, Dogma vs. Dissent. What makes this war worth fighting is not vengeance. It is the human desire for freedom.



To: Roger A. Babb who wrote (294409)9/8/2002 7:12:46 PM
From: JEB  Respond to of 769670
 
That wall you speak of is not an issue in this conversation since the conversation involves Middle Eastern (ME) Islamic people (who reside in the heart of the Crescent of Islam), not American Islamic people.

There is no wall between the church and state in some Islamic countries. This is not only a preferred tenet by the Wahhabi church but add to that the hatred taught about our culture and the West in general. This Wahhabi sponsored hatred is brought to you courtesy of the House of Saud's influence peddling.

Since the average ME Islamic person hates the US, it is easy to convince them to take down the "Great Satan" (you know, ...that's supposed to be you and me).

In conclusion, the average ME Islamic person wants to fight the US because of what they have been taught and not what was done to them by the US.

I recognize that, ...why can't you?