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Politics : Attack Iraq? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Raymond Duray who wrote (718)9/9/2002 7:40:50 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8683
 
To use your own words, "Stick to the topic, skip the personal attacks, OK?" Albert is one of the best participants on this thread, this thread is not going to turn into a circus... understood?

GZ



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (718)9/9/2002 8:16:02 AM
From: AK2004  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8683
 
Ray
re: Play nice. Otherwise we'll get the impression you are a nasty and brutish man. I'm about 2/3 of the way convinced already.

I am sorry you feel this way but playing nice is what got us in this mess to begin with.

And no matter how convinced you might get about my brutishness I am not going to be nice to people like len, who think that brainwashing children into blowing up other children is a struggle for freedom.

When you defend len's democratic right to hate Jews don't forget about my right not to like it



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (718)9/9/2002 12:17:26 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8683
 
''War begins and nobody notices!''

By Wayne Saunders
YellowTimes.org Guest Columnist (Canada)
Printed on Thursday, September 05, 2002 @ 13:01:54 EDT

yellowtimes.org

(YellowTimes.org) – Normally, the title for this column could be a headline for The Onion, that hilarious, irreverent Wisconsin publication that twists things around in order to hint at some absurd reality. The Onion presents fake news and commentary, poking fun at politics, culture, or whatever. Nothing is off-limits and they do a great job, so normally my title could serve as one of their satirical jumping off points. After all, how could the U.S. deploy hundreds of thousands of troops overseas and begin operations in Northern Iraq without around the clock coverage on CNN? How absurd!

Well, no actually. Of what do I speak? For starters we must go offshore, or more accurately, online, to a piece entitled, "Iraq: In all but name, the war's on," by Marc Erikson in the Asia Times, published August 17. He notes that back in January, when Bush began talking about "regime change" in Iraq, he signed an intelligence order directing the CIA to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. (As a footnote, this violates U.S. law, but as expected there was very little ballyhoo about that.) At the time there were approximately 50,000 U.S. and British troops surrounding Iraq.

According to Erikson and numerous overseas reports, that number has quietly grown to well over 100,000 U.S. troops in and around Iraq. This does not include soldiers, sailors and airmen within the expanded theater of operations. There have been two main acceleration points: March and June. A new airfield is operational in Qatar and thousands of U.S. troops are working with local forces in Iraqi Kurdistan, mapping out targets, and covertly planning what will be the long awaited major escalation of a campaign already under way. There's more, much more. On August 9, the Turkish daily, Hurriyet, reported that 5,000 Turkish troops entered northern Iraq and took over a key airbase, north of Mosul.

Meanwhile the Jordanian news agency, Petra, counts thousands more U.S. troops present to conduct joint exercises with the Jordanian army. Still thousands more have been added to Kuwait. If you add in the surrounding region, including allied troops, the number deployed or ready to attack on short notice may reach upwards of 400,000. So where are the nightly reports showing tearful loved ones waiving goodbye as their beloved sons and daughters embark on the latest crusade against the evil doers?

Undoubtedly many units are being reassigned, but many more are shipping out under stealth, seemingly without notice. All we seem to hear about is the stepped up bombing campaign. But then what better way to start a new war than to clandestinely create a military situation with unstoppable momentum?

So the war is on, begun in cloaked fashion as it were, during the dog days of summer.

Given these developments overseas, the factional infighting within the Bush administration concerning war with Iraq should be viewed not as a major turf war, but more as a low-level distraction. (I will eat those words if Colin Powell were to resign before his term is complete, preferably pre-invasion.) In fact what the media circus has achieved this summer is concealment of the aforementioned troop deployments, their actual missions, and the actual strategy. What fellow pundit John Chuckman calls "geopolitics by an idiot" was undoubtedly planned months ago. Even cursory research outside the bounds of acceptable reporting leads to the inevitable conclusion that it's not a question of 'if' or 'when' the U.S. attacks Iraq.

Historically, "The Guns of August" is not exactly an original, and yet in the age of instant global communication, one marvels at the truly Orwellian performance. It advances under a barrage of distortions, half-truths, and outright lies unleashed daily in order to justify blatant aggression. The White House knows there is no proof linking Iraq to the events of September 11, and they know the anthrax attacks were, mysteriously, domestic. Shared hatred of the United States fails to connect Saddam's tyrannical secular state with Osama's stateless, fanatical Islam.

Meanwhile, there is the personal testimony of former chief UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter, who claims that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction are largely disarmed, that the 'Iraqi threat' is built upon a framework of deceit, and that a "handful of ideologues have hijacked the national security policy of the United States for their own ambitions."

And let's not forget Iraq's coveted oil reserves.

Rather than closely examining any such motives, or the wisdom, legality, or necessity of an unprovoked invasion of Iraq, and the certainty of increased misery, mayhem and regional destabilization, the media prefer to fix their gaze upon the timing of such an attack, on possible military strategies, and of course, those divisions within the Bush administration.

It all makes for good gossip amongst the chattering classes. (Ok, some of it is downright interesting: Like how a small cabal of hawks centered in the civilian offices of the Pentagon, along with Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, have essentially hijacked U.S. foreign policy.) But focusing on questions such as whether or not Bush will attack before the November mid-term elections, or wait until early next year, only serve to deflect attention from ominous developments on the ground that, in more honest times, we'd hear at least something. (As late as September 1, the Toronto Star repeated the official story that a mere 60,000 U.S. troops are currently in the region.)

Appointed by the high court, the Bush cabal is as dangerous a sect as has ever ruled the republic; the best and the brightest ideologues the Hard Right can offer. It's time to awaken from summer slumber, admit that they've begun a totally predictable and unnecessary war on Iraq, one that flies in the face of minimal morality as well as logic. Against the wishes of nearly the entire planet, they are determined to proceed, no matter what.

A precarious situation, it merely awaits a catalyst, planned or otherwise, for a justified escalation. Look for the implanting of Gulf War II psychosis within the malleable American psyche with Bush's speech to the UN general assembly on September 12. In the coming weeks, it is expected that the propaganda offensive will rev up to full throttle.

The absurdity of the situation reminds us that a little levity is good for the soul, even during dire times. Thankfully, The Onion continues to pull no punches in its social satire post 9/11 despite the fact that these are not normal times, and quite clearly, this is a not a normal administration in Washington. And yet there is nothing funny about deceiving a population into fighting a war they would not support if only a few simple facts were laid bare or if relevant developments were actually being noted by the media this side of the pond. At the risk of losing one's sense of humor during dire times, we must face the fact that reality has truly eclipsed satire.

It may be the first step towards resisting all this madness.

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Wayne Saunders encourages your comments: planetway@netscape.net