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To: epicure who wrote (57442)	9/9/2002 5:03:09 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Yes, in a less formal setting, I would be much more careful about ensuring give and take, and I am often more amusing in social settings than I am on SI, and take more trouble to be charming and make a personal connection. That is partially simply due to the differences in venue, where give and take is more rapid, and there is less reason to finish a thought before "posting", or where the conversation is less focused. How much difference does the greater spontaneity make? Frankly, I think that the editing function that is present on SI occurs in real time conversation, but it happens as one qualifies what has been said as one goes along, rather than vetting the utterances before "posting". Since I think there is a greater degree of self- censorship in 3D, usually, I am not so sure that spontaneity equals greater sincerity. But also, in 3D, one has to get beyond the "common topics" and set pieces that people have in social settings, and really talk, for there to be any possible advantage. I have had friends who were practically nothing but schtick: honed anecdotes, bits of "standup" business, predictable exchanges about occupations and such, except for a small group of good friends, where they trusted and had run out of material. Whenever they met someone for the first time, I would have to hear their material for the billionth time<g>......

To: epicure who wrote (57442)	9/9/2002 6:08:38 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

That's a good point. One does have to wonder whether Neocon pontificates in his 3D conversations to the degree he does in his cyber communications. My experience here is that he very seldom engages in back-and-forth banter, in the exchange of one-liners which is the nearest substitute we have here to casual 3D conversations. Another aspect of cyber communication is that it is much easier to look intelligent about something you really know little about. I mentioned Titus Andronicus a bit back. I'm sure some (many?) posters have never read the play -- I hadn't, and I have read more Shakespeare than many people have. If I had made that remark at, say, a dinner table, anyone who had not read the play would be in trouble trying to sound erudite. But here, a postere can take a few moments to Google the play and come up with one or two insights that woudl make it seem as thought hey had indeed read and thought about it. So what we see here, when discussing many subjects, is not what a person knows so much as how good a quick study they are. One can fake it much better here than in 3D, presenting a very different sense of what one really knows.