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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (170820)	9/9/2002 8:39:46 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

What's the insinuation here? That Intel had to do with this? It looks like Paul Hales from The Inquirer has it all wrong. The article was actually an endorsement for AMD with small and medium sized businesses. That's why it was titled: HP's New Low-Price PC Should Interest Small Businesses. It's rather sad that the AMD Cheer Squad felt compelled to call a foul here. It would be sort of silly for Intel to discourage large corporate use of an Athlon system, and then turn around and encourage small businesses to adopt their competitor. AMDroids need to think before posting garbage. Actually, after reading this article, one has to question Intel, Gartner, and ZD Net. It seems that the original Gartner article did indeed have that title but the first sentence below the byline is: Hewlett-Packard's (HP's) new Athlon-powered PC, the Compaq D315 Business PC, will likely be of more interest to smaller businesses than larger ones. To me that clearly sounds more like a knock on AMD regarding the enterprise than an endorsement for AMD in the small/med business sector. Now, since AMD has ALL READY shown excellent penetration into the small/medium business markets, it really would be silly and highly suspect for Gartner to find and recommend otherwise. But Intel is desperate to keep AMD out of large businesses. So Intel dollars paying off Gartner to come to their conclusion could logically be expected. I also find it curious that a later version of the article on ZD Net has the following title: Gartner: Shun HP's AMD PC for now By Mark Margevicius, Martin Reynolds September 3, 2002 Provided by On 19 August 2002, HP announced it would use Advanced Micro Devices' (AMD's) Athlon microprocessors in its Compaq D315 Business PC. Computers using the new chip should sell for $549-$599. First take With this move, HP becomes the first major original equipment manufacturer to offer business desktop PCs using AMD's Athlon chip. HP's market is small-to-midsize businesses and government customers, such as schools, that buy PCs solely on the basis of price. HP's targets are the so-called "white box" vendors--manufacturers of inexpensive, generic PCs. The initial marketing focus will be the United States, expanding to overseas markets within the next few months. Enterprises have to balance the price and performance of the D315 against the costs of introducing another platform. Deployment, development, imaging, and support costs can rapidly eat up any savings that might accrue from the use of a less-expensive PC. Furthermore, it will be tough for the price of the AMD platform to drop below the price of the basic Intel platform. Large buyers therefore are unlikely to shift to the AMD system. However, where higher performance is a requirement, an AMD-based system can offer a better price-to-performance ratio, and Gartner expects these business systems to be aggressively priced as AMD tries to open up the market. This is consistent with HP's plan to sell to small businesses that might otherwise buy white box products, or organizations looking for higher performance at a lower price. Large enterprises should ignore D315 for now. Small-to-midsize businesses that are looking for product-only offerings can consider it as alternative to white box products. techupdate.zdnet.com Notice the distinct different tone of the headline as well as the omission of the first sentence BELOW the byline in the original article. Looks like Intel wasn't satisfied with what they paid for and they got ZD Net to change the headline and omit a sentence BELOW the byline. Or, more likely, Gartner was responsible for both. I think both Gartner and ZD NET need to publish the amount of Intel and AMD dollars they receive so the reader can come to his/her own conclusions as to intent in any such Intel/AMD related article. This smells too much like typical Intel tactics and once again wanna displays his disengenousness by trying to portray it as directly the opposite. Typical Intel ploy and seems to be a corner stone of "THE BIG LIE" approach. Intel stooges just don't think before posting. I encourage reading of the reader follow up to this article on ZD Net. THE WATSONYOUTH

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (170820)	9/10/2002 6:06:55 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Hi wanna_bmw, it's a knock against AMD rather than an endorsement There are more than 200 components inside a PC. When those component vendors design and develop their components, all of those component vendors have to test their own components against the main processor and in a combinatorial fashion with the other industry components. And there's so many of them, so obviously, the component vendors' time is allocated according to market share. That's the definition of brand for a component: brand means you get the benefit of more QA time by the industry, which means that brand is quality here. It's not really AMD's fault, but that's just how the high-tech industry works. And one can't blame Gartner for how the industry works either. Total cost of a solution includes support hassles/costs. Regards, Amy J