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To: TimF who wrote (151178)	9/9/2002 6:40:45 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1586650

Miracles emerge from debris Fri Sep 6, 8:57 AM ET Dennis Cauchon and Martha T. Moore USA TODAY Message 17967474

To: TimF who wrote (151178)	9/9/2002 7:42:51 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586650

Secondly, you may think Russians were socialists but they did not think they were......they called themselves communists and said they practiced communism. They where normally called communists in the west and if you want to call them communists I have no objections to that idea, but the where the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And according to their offical ideologists they had not yet reached the state of communism (and in reality would never get to what Marx called communism and where not even trying anymore if they ever had). Since communism was defined as something along the lines of "marxist-lenninist socalism" by many in the west then fine call them communist, but if they where not socialist they would not have been communists either. They where socialists even though they did deviate from Marx's ideas. Tim, in reality the USSR was neither socialist nor communist, it was a typical dictatorship, nothing more nothing less. Names meant little in the Russian sphere; hence, the East Germans called themselves the German Democratic Republic. Do you think the old GDR was democratic? I posted to you the link about Trotsky and Lenin; the subterfuge started way back then. So would Cuba putting in open air markets with lots of free enterprise products in the center of Havana, make it a capitalist nation? Saddam denies he has WMD. Do you believe that's true? Dictatorships are famous for rewriting the principle laws of the universe........why not political/economic theories as well. Because the Russians called themselves communists.......over time, the Marxist purity of the term has been diluted. Nonetheless, when I say it, its the same as what Marx meant and not what some smuck on Dupont Circle thinks. ted