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To: Math Junkie who wrote (65675)	9/10/2002 2:02:22 PM
From: Jerome	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

OT*Japanese Surrender* From what I have read about the final days in Japan. Two weeks before the bomb drop on Hiroshima The Japanese military sent some diplomatic messages to the Russians (in expectation that they would be forwarded to the US) concerning a surrender. The Russians never forwarded the messages because they coveted some Japanese islands, and if the War ended too quickly there was no way Russia could take these islands. When the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, the Japanese military could not verify the destruction to the Emperor, because they did not have gasoline to drive from Tokyo to Nagasaki. They also lacked a geiger counter to verify that it was a nuclear explosion. (some in the military thought that the damage was caused by a series of explosions) Eight hours after the bombing of Nagasaki the American Military dropped a long silver cylinder (by parachute) into the destroyed area. Instructions inside the cylinder told the military to find a Japanese professor of Physics that had studied in the US to verify that this was a nuclear explosion. A lot has been written about the final days of the Japanese Empire. Check your local library for some interesting reading. Jerome

To: Math Junkie who wrote (65675)	9/10/2002 7:07:52 PM
From: Cary Salsberg	Respond to of 70976

OT Sorry, I don't have a link. I came across the material in either an editorial or a book review and only made a mental note.

To: Math Junkie who wrote (65675)	9/10/2002 7:31:04 PM
From: willcousa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

OT - I don't think "recent" history would be very useful here. Another example of recent history - I remember the Smithsonian once took the position that the Japs were justified in attacking Pearl Harbor.

To: Math Junkie who wrote (65675)	9/10/2002 7:38:02 PM
From: SoSo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

An extensive site which I have not fully reviewed, let alone verified: doug-long.com Samples: In his memoirs Admiral William D. Leahy, the President's Chief of Staff--and the top official who presided over meetings of both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Combined U.S.-U.K. Chiefs of Staff--minced few words: [T]he use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of nomaterial assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender. Privately, on June 18, 1945--almost a month before the Emperor's July intervention to seek an end to the war and seven weeks before the atomic bomb was used--Leahy recorded in his diary: It is my opinion at the present time that a surrender of Japan can be arranged with terms that can be accepted by Japan and that will make fully satisfactory provisions for America's defense against future trans-Pacific aggression. Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet stated in a public address given at the Washington Monument on October 5,1945: The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war. (See p. 329, Chapter 26) . . . [Nimitz also stated: "The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan.